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ÕðÜñ÷åé êÜðïõ ôï video ôçò ðáñïõóßáóçò áðü ôï TopGear?
Äåí åãéíå ðáñïõóéáóç. Áðëá äåéîáíå ìéá öùôïãñáöéá ôçò êáé áõôï çôáí. 5 äåõôåñïëåðôá õðïèåóç äëä. Áí èåò ïëï ôï video áðôçí äåõôåñç öåôéíç åêðïìðç ôïõ Top Gear èá ÷ñåéáóôåé íá ôï êáôåâáóåéò áðôá ãíùóôá DC++, Kazaa, e-mule êôë.
Ãéá äïêéìç áðôï Top Gear ôçò Brera èá ðåñéìåíïõìå áñêåôá áêïìá. Åãù ðñïóùðéêá ðåñéìåíù ôá ó÷ïëéá ôïõ Tiff Needel áðï ôï Fifth Gear.
Μου κανει πολυ εντυπωση που η ΜΒ αντιγραφη το εσωτερικο του βασικου ανταγωνιστη της (7αρα). Ειναι σαν να παραδεχετε την ανωτεροτητα της ΒΜ σε θεματα εσωτερικου σχεδιασμου και οχι μονο. Αυτο που με παραξενευει περισσοτερο ειναι οτι υοθετει απλοικη εικονα εσωτερικου κατι που δεν συνεβαινε μεχρι τωρα σε κανενα μοντελο της ΜΒ.
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Ç áíôéðáñáèåóç âåíæéíçò êáé ðåôñåëáéïõ åéíáé éäáéôåñç êáé ï÷é ôïóï áðëç. Ôï ðåôñåëáéï åéíáé ïíôùò ðéï ïéêïíïìéêï êáé ôñåëç ñïðç áðï ÷áìçëá. Ïìùò ôï áõîçìåíï âáñïò ìðñïóôá êáèùò êáé ôï ðïëõ ìéêñï öáóìá óôñïöùí áðïèáñéíåé åíáí óôñïöáêéá óáí êáé ìåíá
Ïóï ãéá ôï äáðåäï ôï áðáíôçóåò êáé ìïíïò óïõ. Âáóéæåôáé óôï ãêïëö êáé ìáíôåøå ðïõ âáóéæåôå áõôï ...............
Ößëå ìïõ óå åõ÷áñéóôþ (ðéóôåýù êáé åê ìÝñïõò êáé ôùí õðüëïéðùí ÷ñçóôþí) ðïõ Üñ÷éóåò íá ãñÜöåéò óôá ÅëëçíéêÜ
(Moderator nass)
Öéëå Nass äåí ôï åêáíá åðéôçäåò. Áðëá çèåëá íá êáíù åíá format êáé íá âáëù ôá óùóôá office. Eõ÷áñéóôù ãéá ôçí õðïìïíç áðï ïëïõò.
Σωστα τα λες γιατρε. Εδω ειμαστε για να μοιραζομαστε αποψεις και οχι να διαφωνουμαι για να διαφωνουμαι. Οπου μπορει ο καθενας να συνεισφερει ας με τις αποψεις του και να αποκτουμε ολοι γνωσεις μεσα απο επικοδομητικες συζητησεις. Οσοι εχουν ξεμηνει στο δημοτικο ας παιξουν με τα αυτοκινητακια τους καλυτερα.
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Äåí å÷åé åíáí áðï ôïõò êáëõôåñïõò......Å÷åé ôïí êáëõôåñï óôçí êáôçãïñéá!!!
Ôï ðëáéóéï ôïõ PASSAT åéíáé ôçò VW??????
To êáëýôåñï åßíáé ó÷åôéêü, ïýôå ï äßëéôñïò ôçò BMW ìå ôá 163 åßíáé Üó÷çìïò êáé óßãïõñá ðïëý êáëýôåñïé êáé ïé äýï áðü ôïõò áíôßóôïé÷ïõò äßëéôñïõò âåíæßíçò (óõìðåñéëáìâáíïìÝíïõ êáé ôïõ TFSI, áöïý ôá 170 Üëïãá 'ôá ÷åé' ìå ðïëý ÷áìçëüôåñç êáôáíÜëùóç). Áò '÷Üóù' 30 Üëïãá, ãéá ðåñéóóüôåñç ñïðÞ êáé öõóéêÜ 7-8 ëßôñá ìÝóç, ðïõ ï TFSI ïýôå óôá ðéï ôñåëëÜ ôïõ üíåéñá äåí ôá âëÝðåé.
Íáé, ôï íÝï Passat åßíáé äÜðåäï Golf V ìå ìåãáëýôåñï ìåôáîüíéï, ðïëëáðëþí óõíäÝóìùí ðßóù áíÜñôçóç, McPherson ìðñïóôÜ êáé åãêÜñóéï êéíçôÞñá
Ç áíôéðáñáèåóç âåíæéíçò êáé ðåôñåëáéïõ åéíáé éäáéôåñç êáé ï÷é ôïóï áðëç. Ôï ðåôñåëáéï åéíáé ïíôùò ðéï ïéêïíïìéêï êáé ôñåëç ñïðç áðï ÷áìçëá. Ïìùò ôï áõîçìåíï âáñïò ìðñïóôá êáèùò êáé ôï ðïëõ ìéêñï öáóìá óôñïöùí áðïèáñéíåé åíáí óôñïöáêéá óáí êáé ìåíá
Ïóï ãéá ôï äáðåäï ôï áðáíôçóåò êáé ìïíïò óïõ. Âáóéæåôáé óôï ãêïëö êáé ìáíôåøå ðïõ âáóéæåôå áõôï ...............
[/quote]ÌéëÜìå ãéá ðïéüôçôá, üôáí Ý÷åé Ýíáí áðü ôïõò êáëýôåñïõò diesel ôçò áãïñÜò; Ï äßëéôñïò TDI âãÜæåé 170 Üëïãá êáé êáìéÜ 35áñéÜ êéëÜ ñïðÞ [/quote]
Äåí å÷åé åíáí áðï ôïõò êáëõôåñïõò......Å÷åé ôïí êáëõôåñï óôçí êáôçãïñéá!!!
[/quote]Ôï ëïãéêü äåí åßíáé íá äéáöïñïðïéåßôáé áðü ôá Audi; Ç äéáöïñïðïßçóç îåêßíçóå áðü ôï ðëáßóéï êáé ðïëý êáëÜ êÜíïõí -åðéôÝëïõò!!!- Áð' üôé öáßíåôáé óõíïëéêÜ Ý÷ïõí êáôáëÜâåé ïñéóìÝíá ëÜèç -Ðé÷- êáé óéãÜ óéãÜ äéïñèþíïíôáé. ÁõôÞ ç 'perceived quality' èá ìáò öÜåé [/quote]
Ôï ðëáéóéï ôïõ PASSAT åéíáé ôçò VW??????
Äñáóôéêåò ëõóåéò áðï ôçí ÇÁRTGE
Ôï ìïôåñ ôçò Ì5 ôï åé÷å âáëåé êáé óôçí Æ4.
Áñá ìïôåñ ðáóðáñôïõ ôï åêáíå ïðùò êáé ôïí 1.8Ô ôïõ VAG
Ôéìç ãéá ôçí ìåôáôñïðç îåñïõìå?
Äñáóôéêåò ëõóåéò áðï ôçí ÇÁRTGE
Ôï ìïôåñ ôçò Ì5 ôï åé÷å âáëåé êáé óôçí Æ4.
Áñá ìïôåñ ðáóðáñôïõ ôï åêáíå ïðùò êáé ôïí 1.8Ô ôïõ VAG
Ôéìç ãéá ôçí ìåôáôñïðç îåñïõìå?
Íá ðáñáèåóù ôïôå êáðïéá áðïóðáóìáôá áðï áñèñï ôïõ áããëéêïõ åíï óôçí ðñïóöáôç äïêéìç ôïõ ðáóóáô ÔDi 170.
Now inside, where the previous Passat's lush solidity made you wonder what the point was of buying an Audi when you could have the same ambience for less money. Anyway, there's less confusion this time; Volkswagen realised it didn't have to make the new Passat quite as Audi-like, so has saved money. It hopes we won't notice, but we do.
So what's wrong? Too much hard plastic, notably in the door trims, and a lightweight, flimsy feel to parts that move. The Passat is now average for perceived quality, not class-leading. It's very roomy, though, and Volkswagen will say that the money saved has been diverted to equipment and technology. Examples (some optional): Keyless starting, an automatic parking brake on all wheels, a hill-holder/creep-stopper for the automatics, a 230V socket for your laptop, a built-in, pop-up keypad to link with your Bluetooth phone.
Áí å÷åéò áëëåò ðëçñïöïñéåò ãéá ôçí ðïéïôçôá ôùí õëéêùí äåéîôåò ìáò ùóôå íá å÷ïõìå êáé ìéá äåõôåñç áðïøç.
Ïôé ìáò ëåíå ôá ðåñéïäéêá äõóôõ÷ùò. Èá äåéîåé..........
Îåñïõìå ïôé ðåñéðïõ 8000 ëéñåò ëéãïôåñï èá ðùëåéôå ç Cayman S áðï ôçí áðëç 911 óôçí Áããëéá.
Ôùñá, óôçí Åëëáäá 108.200 åõñù ðùëåéôå ç 911 (997) áñá áíáëïãéêá ðåñéðïõ 95000 åõñù èá æçôçóïõí ãéá ôï Cayman S.
95000 åõñéá ðåñéðïõ............ êáëá åéíáé? Íá ô'áöçóù?
Porsche is gradually revealing more details of its fourth model, the Cayman, which slots into the line-up between the Boxster S and the base 911 Carrera.
Based on the mid-engined Boxster, but with the increased structural rigidity of a fixed roof, the Cayman is being billed by Porsche as an out-and-out drivers' car. The car's name reflects this; apparently a Cayman is a small but exceptionally nimble type of crocodile.
The only version available at launch will be the hardcore Cayman S, priced at £50,000. This policy is believed to be designed to discourage the purely aspirational or status-orientated buyer of a 911 from dropping down to the new coupe.
The Cayman S will have a new 3.4-litre version of the Boxster's flat-six, producing 295bhp (just 26bhp shy of the 997 Carrera), and the brakes are likely to be Porsche's carbon-ceramic items. The rest of the spec is thought to reach almost Clubsport levels, and there is talk of lighter body panels and limited creature comforts inside.
The suspension retains the MacPherson strut set-up of the Boxster, but there are extensive changes to the geometry to take advantage of the increased rigidity. To keep costs down, front body panels are carried over from the Boxster, although the rear has been completely redesigned. Other items that will be familiar to Boxster drivers include the the six-speed manual or five-speed Tiptronic transmission options. Eventually a PDK (Porsche Doppel Kupplung) dual-clutch system could be an option.
The Cayman will also be practical, with both front and rear boots, a large parcel shelf and a hatchback. Perfect for a weekend away at the Nürburgring, where Walter Röhrl has already bettered the 997's 8min 15sec lap time. The Cayman S is due to go on sale in the UK in November.
Åëðéæù íá ëõèçêáí êáðïéåò áðïñéåò ãéá éððïäõíáìç, ÷ñçìáôá êáé áëëá ôå÷íéêá ÷áñáêôçñéóôçêá. Íá óçìåéùóù ðùò ç ìðïîôåñ Ó å÷åé áðïäåé÷ôåé ôï éäéï ãñçãïñç óôçí ðéóôá ìå ôçí 911. Ôï Cayman (åõåëéêôï êñïêïäåéëáêé) ðñïöáíùò èá áðïäåé÷ôåé ðéï ãñçãïñï êáé áðï ôá äõï.
Ðëçñïöïñéåò ëåíå ðùò ï ó÷åäéáóôçò êñõâåôå óå êáëá öñïõñïõìåíç êñõøùíá óôá äáóç ôïõ áìáæïíéïõ. Å÷åé êõñé÷ôåé åðéêõíäéíïò êáé äéíåôáé óçìáíôéêï ðïóï ãéá ïðïéáäçðïôå ðëçñïöïñéá ïäçãçóåé óôçí óõëëçøç ôïõ.
Ôï ðñïçãïõìåíï ìïíôåëï å÷åé áñêåôá êáëç ðïéïôçôá ãéá ôá ëåöôá ôïõ. Äåí îåñù ôé å÷ïõí êáíåé ìå áõôï? Ñéîáíå ôïóï åîïðëéóìï êáé ëåöôá óå design kai R&D ðïõ ìïõ öáéíåôáé ðùò êïéôáíå íá ôá âãáëïõí ðéóù.
File moderator exeis dikio kai to format pou tha pesei aurio tha egatastisei kai ta ellinika office gia na grafw san anthrwpos.
File IKAR to thema einai i anaggenisi tis pisw kinisis. Kai auto exei ginei kai tha epibebaiwthei kai me tin M1!
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ç BMW ìéëÜåé ãéá áðüëõôï ìç÷Üíçìá ïäÞãçóçò
Xairomai pou me thewreis ekproswpo tis Bimmer kai den tha me xalage na imoun CEO sti BMW alla den distixws den eimai. Ta PR kai marketing stelexoi tis BMW as lene oti theloun gia na poulisoun. O kathenas katalabainei gia ton eauto tou.
áíáëïãßá êéëþí/ßððï; 150 Üëïãá êáé ôá äýï ãéá 1310 êéëÜ ôï ôñéÜñé êáé 1335 ç 1.
Thanks gia ta stoixeia, ta exoume oloi............
á êáëÜ, áí äßíåéò 30+ ãéá ôï äßëéôñï êáé íá '÷åéò éóïñïðçìÝíç áßóèçóç ðÜóï.
Oti plirwneis pairneis alla I dilitri einai underpowered gia mena.
50+ tha edina omws gia M1Äåí åßíáé äýóêïëï, óýìöùíá ìå êÜðïéïí Üëëï áíÞêù óôï 0,1%. Ôï èÝìá åßíáé íá ðñïëÜâåéò íá ìå äåéò
To alogo den kanei ton kabalari opote sigoura tha se dw kai apo oles tis gwnies ama pigainw me to plai
áöïý ôá ÷åéò ôá óôïé÷åßá ãéáôß áíáöÝñåóáé óå áíáëïãßá êéëþí/ßððï;
áõôü ôï üôé ðëçñþíåéò ðáßñíåéò... ìå ëéãüôåñá áðü áõôÜ ðïõ êïóôßæåé ç 120 ðáßñíåéò GTI êáé CTR, êáôþôåñá áõôïêßíçôá;
áí ðçãáßíåéò ìå ôï ðëÜé ÷Üíåéò ÷ñüíï
50Ê ãéá ôçí M1; êáëÜ êÜíåé ç BMW...
an nomizeis pws i 1.20 apeutheinete sto idio koino me to CTR tote lew na min to kourazoumai allo............
ta stioixeia gia kila ana ippo ta exw alla sta xartia to BMW einai pio grigoro sta 100 kathws kai stin teliki me to mazda 3. To test pou anaferese den to gnwrizw alla mipws na baleis kai sto paixnidi tis ekdoseis kai ta epipeda eskoplismou pou eixane ta dio amaksia.
Me tin panta xaneis xrono alla min ksexnas pws exoume kai ena kosmo na euxaristisoume
Fisika kala kanei. Ama i M1 bgazei 310 ippous kai einai ergaleio se sxesi me 147 GTA kai A3 3.2 tote tin pairnei na tin timologisei kai 5 me 10 xiliades eurw parapanw.
Lew pantws stin epomeni timologisi twn montelwn tous na se paroun ena tilefwno na tous peis dio pragmatakia giati den kseroun ti tous ginete ekei stin bauaria. To exoun xasei entelws kai mallon esy ksereis kati parapanw. Giauto pane akai pto kako sto xeirotero kai konteuoun na kleisoun. San tin Rover tha katantisei kai i BMW
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ìå ìéá äéáöïñÜ... ÂÃÁÉÍÅÉ! Ý÷ù íéþóåé ôçò GT êáé ôçò 147 êé Ýìåéíá
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Ta stoixeia pou mas paratheteis einai afoplistika.
-Me liga logia ta BMW einai kakostimena autokinita pou aplws petane kwlo kai pali xwris kapoio noima i aisthisi stis plirofories pou dinei ston odigo. Den exoun to idaniko zigisma (50/50) pou fisika exoun oi ALFA
-apo timoni pali kala pou exoun kai kremargera alliws tha bgainame apto amaksi na striboume tous troxous me ta xeria (tin teleutaia fora pou tsekara to active steering den einai to pio kofto timoni apo akri se akri????).
-Ta ilektronika episis einai safws katwtera apo tis ALFA (ta BMW exoun MONO dio stadia apenergopoiisis gia na sou epitrepsoun na paikseis xwris to traction alla me tin asfalstiki dikleida tou ESP).
-Episis einai barkes se sxesi panta me tis theikes kai apoloites ALFA (Alitheia i ekdosi Dynamic den exei 10mm xamiloteri anartisei kai epanaprogrammatismeno active steering gia akomi pio grigoro timoni?).
-I poiotita ton ilikwn mesa einai ipodeesteri tis GT kai xrisimopoiei anakiklwmena kommatia plintiriwn kai tileoraseon apo tin rwsiki LADA. I oikonomiki katastasi tis BMW blepeis den epitrepei tis xlides tis oikonomika eurwstis ALFA.
-Ta dipla psalidia einai i moni endedeigmeni lisi kai safws anwteri twn mcpherson. Pali kala pou i porche to katalabe engerws kai glitwse ta xeirotera. Lansare tin boxter me dipla psalidia to 1996 kai etsi swthike. Eutixws itan i ALFA na tis deiksei ton dromo.
-Mono oi mouratoi odigoun BMW kai auto giati den kseroun ti kainotomies kribei i ALFA.
-Einai kala krimmeno mistiko oti oi ALFA einai kaliteres apo tis BMW ektos fisika apto frenarisma kai olo auto trofodoteite apo tous misthoforous dimosiografous ana ton kosmo. Einai mono thema xronou na bgei sti fora poso teleio iperoplo einai i katharoaimi GT kai tote pios tin poianei. Tha bromisei o topos GT kai oloi oi BMWakides tha klaine epeidi tous eixan koroidepsei i kakoi dimosiografoi.
Lew na kremasoume olous tous dimosiografous kai na arxisoume na xlebazoume tous kai kala grigorous BMWakides pou mono mouri poulane me tis polithrones pou exoun parei.
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