....ή ΓΙΑΤΙ να μην παίρνετε την Βίβλο/Ευαγγέλια/Διαθήκες στην κυριολεξία...

Τα παρακάτω αποσπάσματα είναι στα Αγγλικά(πιστεύω, οι περισσότεροι μπορείτε να τα κατανοήσετε), από μια αναζήτηση στον Ιστό.

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. 'The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.' (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)[/list:u:2vyhnl0d]
Δηλαδή, τι διαφορά έχει μια τέτοια συμπεριφορά από το ότι διδάσκει το Κοράνι που λέει να σκοτώνετε τους άπιστους... Μέγας Πολιτισμός...

[list:2vyhnl0d]'He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him takes care to chastise him' (Proverbs 13:24 NAB)

'Chastise your son, for in this there is hope, but do not desire his death. The man of violent temper pays the penalty; even if you rescue him, you will have to do it again.' (Proverbs 19:18-19 NAB)
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Δηλαδή αν αγαπάτε τα τέκνα σας, απλά σαπίστε τα στο ξύλο.

[list:2vyhnl0d]'Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.' (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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Να την πληρώσουν ΚΑΙ οι γιοι των αμαρτωλών..., σαν να λέμε, καλά έκανε η χούντα και φακέλωνε τις οικογένειες πολιτών, ακόμα και αν οι γιοι/κόρες δεν έφταιγαν σε τίποτα...

[list:2vyhnl0d]'If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.' (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)[/list:u:2vyhnl0d]
Σκοτώστε τους οπαδούς άλλων θρησκειών...

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.''
Then David said to Nathan, 'I have sinned against the Lord.' Nathan answered David: 'The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.' (The child dies seven days later.) 2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB
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Πολυγαμία, βιασμός και δολοφονία βρέφους με την συγκατάθεση του θεού.

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.' Exodus 21:20-21 NAB
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Δουλεία..και πώς να μην τιμωρηθείτε για κακοποίηση σκλάβου...

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, 'If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.'

'So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory.  He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith - twenty towns - and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites.  When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter - his only child - ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy.  When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish.  'My daughter!' he cried out.  'My heart is breaking!  What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back.'  And she said, 'Father, you have made a promise to the LORD.  You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites.  But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin.'  'You may go,' Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months.  She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children.  When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin.  So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter.'   Judges 11:29-40 

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Ανθρωποθυσία για τον Θεό.

[list:2vyhnl0d]'If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.' Deuteronomy 22:28-29
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Κανόνες βιασμού...αν σας πιάσουν...

[list:2vyhnl0d]'As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. But these instructions apply only to distant towns, not to the towns of nations nearby. 'As for the towns of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as a special possession, destroy every living thing in them. You must completely destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just as the LORD your God has commanded you. This will keep the people of the land from teaching you their detestable customs in the worship of their gods, which would cause you to sin deeply against the LORD your God.' Deuteronomy 20:10-18 NLT
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Δολοφόνησε, βίασε και λεηλάτησε...με τις ευλογίες του Θεού...

[list:2vyhnl0d]The next day an evil spirit from God came over Saul, and he raged in his house. David was in attendance, playing the harp as at other times, while Saul was holding his spear. Saul poised his spear, thinking to nail David to the wall, but twice David escaped him. (1 Samuel 18:10-11 NAB)
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Ώστε ο Θεός στέλνει ΚΑΙ κακά πνεύματα...

[list:2vyhnl0d]For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV)
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[list:2vyhnl0d] No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord. (Deuteronomy 23:2 NAB)
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Απ'την μια πλευρά, ο ευνουχισμός μπορεί να οδηγήσει ευκολότερα στον Παράδεισο, αλλά απ'την άλλη όλοι οι ευνούχοι δεν θα πάνε στον Παράδεισο καθώς είναι άτομα με ειδικές ανάγκες(ανάπηροι, με άλλα λόγια και όχι άρτιοι...)

[list:2vyhnl0d]Each day prepare your bread as you would barley cakes. While all the people are watching, bake it over a fire using dried human dung as fuel and then eat the bread. For this is what the LORD says: Israel will eat defiled bread in the Gentile lands, where I will banish them!' Then I said, 'O Sovereign LORD, must I be defiled by using human dung? For I have never been defiled before. From the time I was a child until now I have never eaten any animal that died of sickness or that I found dead. And I have never eaten any of the animals that our laws forbid.' 'All right,' the LORD said. 'You may bake your bread with cow dung instead of human dung.' (Ezekiel 4:12-15 NLT)
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Φάτε ψωμί με άρωμα και γεύση... σκ@τού

[list:2vyhnl0d] The Lord has made everything for his own ends, even the wicked for the evil day. (Proverbs 16:4 NAB)
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'Ωστε ο Θεός δημιούργησε ΚΑΙ τους αμαρτωλούς για να κάνει την πάρτι του και το παιχνίδι του...

[list:2vyhnl0d] And put a knife to your throat if you have a ravenous appetite. (Proverbs 23:2 NAB)[/list:u:2vyhnl0d]
Αν είσαι λαίμαργος...κόψε τον λαιμό σου(στην κυριολεξία)...

[list:2vyhnl0d][The prophet Jeremiah speaking] 'Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, to whom you sent me to offer your prayer: If you remain quietly in this land I will build you up, and not tear you down; I will plant you, not uproot you; for I regret the evil I have done you.' (Jeremiah 42:9-10 NAB)
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Ο Θεός έχει ενοχές για το κακό που προξένησε

[list:2vyhnl0d]Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. (1 Timothy 2:11-15 NLT)
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Ισότητα; Τι είναι αυτό;

[list:2vyhnl0d]As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:33-35 NAB)
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Γυναίκες, δεν επιτρέπεται να μιλάτε στις εκκλησίες...

[list:2vyhnl0d]If two Israelite men are fighting and the wife of one tries to rescue her husband by grabbing the testicles of the other man, her hand must be cut off without pity. (Deuteronomy 25:11-12 NLT)
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Γυναίκες, μην αγγίζετε 'ξένα' αρχ@δια, ακόμα και σε ανάγκη...

[list:2vyhnl0d]But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
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Σκοτώστε αυτές που δεν είναι παρθένες την νύχτα του γάμου...

[list:2vyhnl0d]Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
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Σκοτώστε όσους δεν ακούνε τους παπάδες...

[list:2vyhnl0d] When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
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Οι Κανόνες για όταν πουλάς την κόρη σου για π@υτ@ν#...

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Σλοτώστε τις μάγισσες...

[list:2vyhnl0d] If after this you still refuse to listen and still remain hostile toward me, then I will give full vent to my hostility. I will punish you seven times over for your sins. You will eat the flesh of your own sons and daughters. I will destroy your pagan shrines and cut down your incense altars. I will leave your corpses piled up beside your lifeless idols, and I will despise you. I will make your cities desolate and destroy your places of worship, and I will take no pleasure in your offerings of incense. Yes, I myself will devastate your land. Your enemies who come to occupy it will be utterly shocked at the destruction they see. I will scatter you among the nations and attack you with my own weapons. Your land will become desolate, and your cities will lie in ruins. Then at last the land will make up for its missed Sabbath years as it lies desolate during your years of exile in the land of your enemies. Then the land will finally rest and enjoy its Sabbaths. As the land lies in ruins, it will take the rest you never allowed it to take every seventh year while you lived in it. (Leviticus 26:27-35 NLT)
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Κανιβαλισμός...

[list:2vyhnl0d]You [God] fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved. (Psalm 104:5 NAB)
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Η Γη δεν κινείται...

[list:2vyhnl0d]When the Lord has pity on Jacob and again chooses Israel and settles them on their own soil, the aliens will join them and be counted with the house of Jacob. The house of Israel will take them and bring them along to its place, and possess them as male and female slaves on the Lord's soil, making captives of its captors and ruling over its oppressors. (Isaiah 14:1-2 NAB)
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Ο Θεός επιδοκιμάζει την Δουλεία...

[list:2vyhnl0d] Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence, (Matthew 4:8 NAB)
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Μήπως η Γη είναι επίπεδη;

[list:2vyhnl0d] Trust in the LORD with all your heart, on your own intelligence rely not. (Proverbs 3:5 NAB)
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Μην εμπιστεύεστε το μαυλό σας/την εξυπνάδα σας. 'πίστευε και μη ερεύνα'...

....ή ΓΙΑΤΙ να μην παίρνετε την Βίβλο/Ευαγγέλια/Διαθήκες στην κυριολεξία...

Τα παρακάτω αποσπάσματα είναι στα Αγγλικά(πιστεύω, οι περισσότεροι μπορείτε να τα κατανοήσετε), από μια αναζήτηση στον Ιστό.

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. 'The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.' (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)[/list:u:2vyhnl0d]
Δηλαδή, τι διαφορά έχει μια τέτοια συμπεριφορά από το ότι διδάσκει το Κοράνι που λέει να σκοτώνετε τους άπιστους... Μέγας Πολιτισμός...

[list:2vyhnl0d]'He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him takes care to chastise him' (Proverbs 13:24 NAB)

'Chastise your son, for in this there is hope, but do not desire his death. The man of violent temper pays the penalty; even if you rescue him, you will have to do it again.' (Proverbs 19:18-19 NAB)
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Δηλαδή αν αγαπάτε τα τέκνα σας, απλά σαπίστε τα στο ξύλο.

[list:2vyhnl0d]'Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.' (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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Να την πληρώσουν ΚΑΙ οι γιοι των αμαρτωλών..., σαν να λέμε, καλά έκανε η χούντα και φακέλωνε τις οικογένειες πολιτών, ακόμα και αν οι γιοι/κόρες δεν έφταιγαν σε τίποτα...

[list:2vyhnl0d]'If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.' (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)[/list:u:2vyhnl0d]
Σκοτώστε τους οπαδούς άλλων θρησκειών...

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.''
Then David said to Nathan, 'I have sinned against the Lord.' Nathan answered David: 'The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.' (The child dies seven days later.) 2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB
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Πολυγαμία, βιασμός και δολοφονία βρέφους με την συγκατάθεση του θεού.

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.' Exodus 21:20-21 NAB
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Δουλεία..και πώς να μην τιμωρηθείτε για κακοποίηση σκλάβου...

[list:2vyhnl0d] 'At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, 'If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.'

'So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory.  He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith - twenty towns - and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites.  When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter - his only child - ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy.  When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish.  'My daughter!' he cried out.  'My heart is breaking!  What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back.'  And she said, 'Father, you have made a promise to the LORD.  You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites.  But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin.'  'You may go,' Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months.  She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children.  When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin.  So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter.'   Judges 11:29-40 

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Ανθρωποθυσία για τον Θεό.

[list:2vyhnl0d]'If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.' Deuteronomy 22:28-29
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Κανόνες βιασμού...αν σας πιάσουν...

[list:2vyhnl0d]'As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. But these instructions apply only to distant towns, not to the towns of nations nearby. 'As for the towns of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as a special possession, destroy every living thing in them. You must completely destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just as the LORD your God has commanded you. This will keep the people of the land from teaching you their detestable customs in the worship of their gods, which would cause you to sin deeply against the LORD your God.' Deuteronomy 20:10-18 NLT
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Δολοφόνησε, βίασε και λεηλάτησε...με τις ευλογίες του Θεού...

[list:2vyhnl0d]The next day an evil spirit from God came over Saul, and he raged in his house. David was in attendance, playing the harp as at other times, while Saul was holding his spear. Saul poised his spear, thinking to nail David to the wall, but twice David escaped him. (1 Samuel 18:10-11 NAB)
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Ώστε ο Θεός στέλνει ΚΑΙ κακά πνεύματα...

[list:2vyhnl0d]For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV)
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[list:2vyhnl0d] No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord. (Deuteronomy 23:2 NAB)
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Απ'την μια πλευρά, ο ευνουχισμός μπορεί να οδηγήσει ευκολότερα στον Παράδεισο, αλλά απ'την άλλη όλοι οι ευνούχοι δεν θα πάνε στον Παράδεισο καθώς είναι άτομα με ειδικές ανάγκες(ανάπηροι, με άλλα λόγια και όχι άρτιοι...)

[list:2vyhnl0d]Each day prepare your bread as you would barley cakes. While all the people are watching, bake it over a fire using dried human dung as fuel and then eat the bread. For this is what the LORD says: Israel will eat defiled bread in the Gentile lands, where I will banish them!' Then I said, 'O Sovereign LORD, must I be defiled by using human dung? For I have never been defiled before. From the time I was a child until now I have never eaten any animal that died of sickness or that I found dead. And I have never eaten any of the animals that our laws forbid.' 'All right,' the LORD said. 'You may bake your bread with cow dung instead of human dung.' (Ezekiel 4:12-15 NLT)
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Φάτε ψωμί με άρωμα και γεύση... σκ@τού

[list:2vyhnl0d] The Lord has made everything for his own ends, even the wicked for the evil day. (Proverbs 16:4 NAB)
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'Ωστε ο Θεός δημιούργησε ΚΑΙ τους αμαρτωλούς για να κάνει την πάρτι του και το παιχνίδι του...

[list:2vyhnl0d] And put a knife to your throat if you have a ravenous appetite. (Proverbs 23:2 NAB)[/list:u:2vyhnl0d]
Αν είσαι λαίμαργος...κόψε τον λαιμό σου(στην κυριολεξία)...

[list:2vyhnl0d][The prophet Jeremiah speaking] 'Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, to whom you sent me to offer your prayer: If you remain quietly in this land I will build you up, and not tear you down; I will plant you, not uproot you; for I regret the evil I have done you.' (Jeremiah 42:9-10 NAB)
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Ο Θεός έχει ενοχές για το κακό που προξένησε

[list:2vyhnl0d]Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. (1 Timothy 2:11-15 NLT)
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Ισότητα; Τι είναι αυτό;

[list:2vyhnl0d]As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:33-35 NAB)
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Γυναίκες, δεν επιτρέπεται να μιλάτε στις εκκλησίες...

[list:2vyhnl0d]If two Israelite men are fighting and the wife of one tries to rescue her husband by grabbing the testicles of the other man, her hand must be cut off without pity. (Deuteronomy 25:11-12 NLT)
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Γυναίκες, μην αγγίζετε 'ξένα' αρχ@δια, ακόμα και σε ανάγκη...

[list:2vyhnl0d]But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
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Σκοτώστε αυτές που δεν είναι παρθένες την νύχτα του γάμου...

[list:2vyhnl0d]Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
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Σκοτώστε όσους δεν ακούνε τους παπάδες...

[list:2vyhnl0d] When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
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Οι Κανόνες για όταν πουλάς την κόρη σου για π@υτ@ν#...

[list:2vyhnl0d]You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)[/list:u:2vyhnl0d]
Σλοτώστε τις μάγισσες...

[list:2vyhnl0d] If after this you still refuse to listen and still remain hostile toward me, then I will give full vent to my hostility. I will punish you seven times over for your sins. You will eat the flesh of your own sons and daughters. I will destroy your pagan shrines and cut down your incense altars. I will leave your corpses piled up beside your lifeless idols, and I will despise you. I will make your cities desolate and destroy your places of worship, and I will take no pleasure in your offerings of incense. Yes, I myself will devastate your land. Your enemies who come to occupy it will be utterly shocked at the destruction they see. I will scatter you among the nations and attack you with my own weapons. Your land will become desolate, and your cities will lie in ruins. Then at last the land will make up for its missed Sabbath years as it lies desolate during your years of exile in the land of your enemies. Then the land will finally rest and enjoy its Sabbaths. As the land lies in ruins, it will take the rest you never allowed it to take every seventh year while you lived in it. (Leviticus 26:27-35 NLT)
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Κανιβαλισμός...

[list:2vyhnl0d]You [God] fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved. (Psalm 104:5 NAB)
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Η Γη δεν κινείται...

[list:2vyhnl0d]When the Lord has pity on Jacob and again chooses Israel and settles them on their own soil, the aliens will join them and be counted with the house of Jacob. The house of Israel will take them and bring them along to its place, and possess them as male and female slaves on the Lord's soil, making captives of its captors and ruling over its oppressors. (Isaiah 14:1-2 NAB)
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Ο Θεός επιδοκιμάζει την Δουλεία...

[list:2vyhnl0d] Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence, (Matthew 4:8 NAB)
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Μήπως η Γη είναι επίπεδη;

[list:2vyhnl0d] Trust in the LORD with all your heart, on your own intelligence rely not. (Proverbs 3:5 NAB)
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Μην εμπιστεύεστε το μαυλό σας/την εξυπνάδα σας. 'πίστευε και μη ερεύνα'...

Αλληλοσυγκρουόμενες φράσεις

1. God is satisfied with his works
   Gen 1:31
   God is dissatisfied with his works.
   Gen 6:6
   2. God dwells in chosen temples
   2 Chron 7:12,16
   God dwells not in temples
   Acts 7:48
   3. God dwells in light
   Tim 6:16
   God dwells in darkness
   1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
   4. God is seen and heard
   Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
   Ex 24:9-11
   God is invisible and cannot be heard
   John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
   5. God is tired and rests
   Ex 31:17/ Jer 15:6
   God is never tired and never rests
   Is 40:28
   6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
   Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
   God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
   things
   Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
   7. God knows the hearts of men
   Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
   God tries men to find out what is in their heart
   Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
   8. God is all powerful
   Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
   God is not all powerful
   Judg 1:19
   9. God is unchangeable
   James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
   God is changeable
   Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
   Ex 33:1,3,17,14
   10. God is just and impartial
   Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
   God is unjust and partial
   Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
   11. God is the author of evil
   Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
   God is not the author of evil
   1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
   12. God gives freely to those who ask
   James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
   God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving
   them
   John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
   13. God is to be found by those who seek him
   Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17
   God is not to be found by those who seek him
   Prov 1:28
   14. God is warlike
   Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15
   God is peaceful
   Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33
   15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious
   Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
   God is kind, merciful, and good
   James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
   1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
   16. God's anger is fierce and endures long
   Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
   God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute
   Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5
   17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,
   sacrifices ,and holy days
   Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9
   God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,
   sacrifices, and holy days.
   Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
   18. God accepts human sacrifices
   2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39
   God forbids human sacrifice
   Deut 12:30,31
   19. God tempts men
   Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13
   God tempts no man
   James 1:13
   20. God cannot lie
   Heb 6:18
   God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t deceive
   2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9
   21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
   Gen 6:5,7
   Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
   Gen 8:21
   22. God's attributes are revealed in his works.
   Rom 1:20
   God's attributes cannot be discovered
   Job 11:7/ Is 40:28
   23. There is but one God
   Deut 6:4
   There is a plurality of gods
   Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7
   24. Robbery commanded
   Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36
   Robbery forbidden
   Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15
   25. Lying approved and sanctioned
   Josh 2:4-6/ James 2:25/ Ex 1:18-20/ 1 Kings 22:21,22
   Lying forbidden
   Ex 20:16/ Prov 12:22/ Rev 21:8
   26. Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned
   2 Kings 14:7,3
   Hatred to the Edomite forbidden
   Deut 23:7
   27. Killing commanded
   Ex 32:27
   Killing forbidden
   Ex 20:13
   28. The blood-shedder must die
   Gen 9:5,6
   The blood-shedder must not die
   Gen 4:15
   29. The making of images forbidden
   Ex 20:4
   The making of images commanded
   Ex 25:18,20
   30. Slavery and oppression ordained
   Gen 9:25/ Lev 25:45,46/ Joel 3:8
   Slavery and oppression forbidden
   Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt 23:10
   31. Improvidence enjoyed
   Matt 6:28,31,34/ Luke 6:30,35/ Luke 12:3
   Improvidence condemned
   1 Tim 5:8/ Prov 13:22
   32. Anger approved
   Eph 4:26
   Anger disapproved
   Eccl 7:9/ Prov 22:24/ James 1:20
   33. Good works to be seen of men
   Matt 5:16
   Good works not to be seen of men
   Matt 6:1
   34. Judging of others forbidden
   Matt 7:1,2
   Judging of others approved
   1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12
   35. Christ taught non-resistance
   Matt 5:39/ Matt 26:52
   Christ taught and practiced physical resistance
   Luke 22:36/ John 2:15
   36. Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed
   Luke 12:4
   Christ himself avoided the Jews for fear of being killed
   John 7:1
   37. Public prayer sanctioned
   1 Kings 8:22,54, 9:3
   Public prayer disapproved
   Matt 6:5,6
   38. Importunity in prayer commended
   Luke 18:5,7
   Importunity in prayer condemned
   Matt 6:7,8
   39. The wearing of long hair by men sanctioned
   Judg 13:5/ Num 6:5
   The wearing of long hair by men condemned
   1 Cor 11:14
   40. Circumcision instituted
   Gen 17:10
   Circumcision condemned
   Gal 5:2
   41. The Sabbath instituted
   Ex 20:8
   The Sabbath repudiated
   Is 1:13/ Rom 14:5/ Col 2:16
   42. The Sabbath instituted because God rested on the seventh day
   Ex 20:11
   The Sabbath instituted because God brought the Israelites
   out of Egypt
   Deut 5:15
   43. No work to be done on the Sabbath under penalty of death
   Ex 31:15/ Num 15:32,36
   Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his disciples in
   the same
   John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5
   44. Baptism commanded
   Matt 28:19
   Baptism not commanded
   1 Cor 1:17,14
   45. Every kind of animal allowed for food.
   Gen 9:3/ 1 Cor 10:25/ Rom 14:14
   Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food.
   Deut 14:7,8
   46. Taking of oaths sanctioned
   Num 30:2/ Gen 21:23-24,31/ Gen 31:53/ Heb 6:13
   Taking of oaths forbidden
   Matt 5:34
   47. Marriage approved
   Gen 2:18/ Gen 1:28/ Matt 19:5/ Heb 13:4
   Marriage disapproved
   1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8
   48. Freedom of divorce permitted
   Deut 24:1/ Deut 21:10,11,14
   Divorce restricted
   Matt 5:32
   49. Adultery forbidden
   Ex 20:14/ Heb 13:4
   Adultery allowed
   Num 31:18/ Hos 1:2; 2:1-3
   50. Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced
   Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17
   Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union
   Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16
   51. A man may marry his brother's widow
   Deut 25:5
   A man may not marry his brother's widow
   Lev 20:21
   52. Hatred to kindred enjoined
   Luke 14:26
   Hatred to kindred condemned
   Eph 6:2/ Eph 5:25,29
   53. Intoxicating beverages recommended
   Prov 31:6,7/ 1 Tim 5:23/ Ps 104:15
   Intoxicating beverages discountenanced
   Prov 20:1/ Prov 23:31,32
   54. It is our duty to obey our rulers, who are God's ministers
   and punish evil doers only
   Rom 13:1-3,6
   It is not our duty to obey rulers, who sometimes punish the
   good and receive unto themselves damnation therefor
   Ex 1:17,20/ Dan 3:16,18/ Dan 6:9,7,10/ Acts 4:26,27/
   Mark 12:38,39,40/ Luke 23:11,24,33,35
   55. Women's rights denied
   Gen 3:16/ 1 Tim 2:12/ 1 Cor 14:34/ 1 Pet 3:6
   Women's rights affirmed
   Judg 4:4,14,15/ Judg 5:7/ Acts 2:18/ Acts 21:9
   56. Obedience to masters enjoined
   Col 3:22,23/ 1 Pet 2:18
   Obedience due to God only
   Matt 4:10/ 1 Cor 7:23/ Matt 23:10
   57. There is an unpardonable sin
   Mark 3:29
   There is not unpardonable sin
   Acts 13:39
   58. Man was created after the other animals
   Gen 1:25,26,27
   Man was created before the other animals
   Gen 2:18,19
   59. Seed time and harvest were never to cease
   Gen 8:22
   Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years
   Gen 41:54,56/ Gen 45:6
   60. God hardened Pharaoh's heart
   Ex 4:21/ Ed 9:12
   Pharaoh hardened his own heart
   Ex 8:15
   61. All the cattle and horses in Egypt died
   Ex 9:3,6/ 14:9
   All the horses of Egypt did not die
   Ex 14:9
   62. Moses feared Pharaoh
   Ex 2:14,15,23; 4:19
   Moses did not fear Pharaoh
   Heb 11:27
   63. There died of the plague twenty-four thousand
   Num 25:9
   There died of the plague but twenty-three thousand
   1 Cor 10:8
   64. John the Baptist was Elias
   Matt 11:14
   John the Baptist was not Elias
   John 1:21
   65. The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob
   Matt 1:16
   The father of Mary's husband was Heli
   Luke 3:23
   66. The father of Salah was Arphaxad
   Gen 11:12
   The father of Salah was Cainan
   Luke 3:35,36
   67. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David
   Matt 1:17
   There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David
   Matt 1:2-6
   68. There were fourteen generations from the Babylonian captivity
   to Christ.
   Matt 1:17
   There were but thirteen generations from the Babylonian
   captivity to Christ
   Matt 1:12-16
   69. The infant Christ was taken into Egypt
   Matt 2:14,15,19,21,23
   The infant Christ was not taken into Egypt
   Luke 2:22, 39
   70. Christ was tempted in the wilderness
   Mark 1:12,13
   Christ was not tempted in the wilderness
   John 2:1,2
   71. Christ preached his first sermon on the mount
   Matt 5:1,2
   Christ preached his first sermon on the plain
   Luke 6:17,20
   72. John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee
   Mark 1:14
   John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee
   John 1:43/ John 3:22-24
   73. Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff
   and sandals
   Mark 6:8,9
   Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with neither
   staffs nor sandals.
   Matt 10:9,10
   74. A woman of Canaan besought Jesus
   Matt 15:22
   It was a Greek woman who besought Him
   Mark 7:26
   75. Two blind men besought Jesus
   Matt 20:30
   Only one blind man besought Him
   Luke 18:35,38
   76. Christ was crucified at the third hour
   Mark 15:25
   Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour
   John 19:14,15
   77. The two thieves reviled Christ.
   Matt 27:44/ Mark 15:32
   Only one of the thieves reviled Christ
   Luke 23:39,40
   78. Satan entered into Judas while at supper
   John 13:27
   Satan entered into him before the supper
   Luke 22:3,4,7
   79. Judas committed suicide by hanging
   Matt 27:5
   Judas did not hang himself, but died another way
   Acts 1:18
   80. The potter's field was purchased by Judas
   Acts 1:18
   The potter's field was purchased by the Chief Priests
   Matt 27:6,7
   81. There was but one woman who came to the sepulchre
   John 20:1
   There were two women who came to the sepulchre
   Matt 28:1
   82. There were three women who came to the sepulchre
   Mark 16:1
   There were more than three women who came to the sepulchre
   Luke 24:10
   83. It was at sunrise when they came to the sepulchre
   Mark 16:2
   It was some time before sunrise when they came.
   John 20:1
   84. There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulchre, and
   they were standing up.
   Luke 24:4
   There was but one angel seen, and he was sitting down.
   Matt 28:2,5
   85. There were two angels seen within the sepulchre.
   John 20:11,12
   There was but one angel seen within the sepulchre
   Mark 16:5
   86. Christ was to be three days and three nights in the grave
   Matt 12:40
   Christ was but two days and two nights in the grave
   Mark 15:25,42,44,45,46; 16:9>
   87. Holy ghost bestowed at pentecost
   Acts 1:8,5
   Holy ghost bestowed before pentecost
   John 20:22
   88. The disciples were commanded immediately after the
   resurrection to go into Galilee
   Matt 28:10
   The disciples were commanded immediately after the
   resurrection to go tarry at Jerusalem
   Luke 24:49
   89. Jesus first appeared to the eleven disciples in a room at
   Jerusalem
   Luke 24:33,36,37/ John 20:19
   Jesus first appeared to the eleven on a mountain in Galilee
   Matt 28:16,17
   90. Christ ascended from Mount Olivet
   Acts 1:9,12
   Christ ascended from Bethany
   Luke 24:50,51
   91. Paul's attendants heard the miraculous voice, and stood
   speechless
   Acts 9:7
   Paul's attendants heard not the voice and were prostrate
   Acts 26:14
   92. Abraham departed to go into Canaan
   Gen 12:5
   Abraham went not knowing where
   Heb 11:8
   93. Abraham had two sons
   Gal 4:22
   Abraham had but one son
   Heb 11:17
   94. Keturah was Abraham's wife
   Gen 25:1
   Keturah was Abraham's concubine
   1 Chron 1:32
   95. Abraham begat a son when he was a hundred years old, by the
   interposition of Providence
   Gen 21:2/ Rom 4:19/ Heb 11:12
   Abraham begat six children more after he was a hundred years
   old without any interposition of providence
   Gen 25:1,2
   96. Jacob bought a sepulchre from Hamor
   Josh 24:32
   Abraham bought it of Hamor
   Acts 7:16
   97. God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham and his seed
   forever
   Gen 13:14,15,17; 17:8
   Abraham and his seed never received the promised land
   Acts 7:5/ Heb 11:9,13
   98. Goliath was slain by Elhanan
   2 Sam 21:19 *note, was changed in translation to be
   correct. Original manuscript was incorrect>
   The brother of Goliath was slain by Elhanan
   1 Chron 20:5
   99. Ahaziah began to reign in the twelfth year of Joram
   2 Kings 8:25
   Ahaziah began to reign in the eleventh year of Joram
   2 Kings 9:29
   100. Michal had no child
   2 Sam 6:23
   Michal had five children
   2 Sam 21:8
   101. David was tempted by the Lord to number Israel
   2 Sam 24:1
   David was tempted by Satan to number the people
   1 Chron 21:1
   102. The number of fighting men of Israel was 800,000; and of
   Judah 500,000
   2 Sam 24:9
   The number of fighting men of Israel was 1,100,000; and of
   Judah 470,000
   1 Chron 21:5
   103. David sinned in numbering the people
   2 Sam 24:10
   David never sinned, except in the matter of Uriah
   1 Kings 15:5
   104. One of the penalties of David's sin was seven years of
   famine.
   2 Sam 24:13
   It was not seven years, but three years of famine
   1 Chron 21:11,12
   105. David took seven hundred horsemen
   2 Sam 8:4
   David took seven thousand horsemen
   1 Chron 18:4
   106. David bought a threshing floor for fifty shekels of silver
   2 Sam 24:24
   David bought the threshing floor for six hundred shekels of
   gold
   1 Chron 21:25
   107. David's throne was to endure forever.
   Ps 89:35-37
   David's throne was cast down
   Ps 89:44
   108. Christ is equal with God
   John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
   Christ is not equal with God
   John 14:28/ Matt 24:36
   109. Jesus was all-powerful
   Matt 28:18/ John 3:35
   Jesus was not all-powerful
   Mark 6:5
   110. The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation
   Luke 16:16/ Eph 2:15/ Rom 7:6
   The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation
   Matt 5:17-19
   111. Christ's mission was peace
   Luke 2:13,14
   Christ's mission was not peace
   Matt 10:34
   112. Christ received not testimony from man
   John 5:33,34
   Christ did receive testimony from man
   John 15:27
   113. Christ's witness of himself is true.
   John 8:18,14
   Christ's witness of himself is not true.
   John 5:31
   114. Christ laid down his life for his friends
   John 15:13/ John 10:11
   Christ laid down his life for his enemies
   Rom 5:10
   115. It was lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death
   John 19:7
   It was not lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death
   John 18:31
   116. Children are punished for the sins of the parents
   Ex 20:5
   Children are not punished for the sins of the parents
   Ezek 18:20
   117. Man is justified by faith alone
   Rom 3:20/ Gal 2:16/ Gal 3:11,12/ Rom 4:2
   Man is not justified by faith alone
   James 2:21,24/ Rom 2:13
   118. It is impossible to fall from grace
   John 10:28/ Rom 8:38,39
   It is possible to fall from grace
   Ezek 18:24/ Heb 6:4-6, 2 Pet 2:20,21
   119. No man is without sin
   1 Kings 8:46/ Prov 20:9/ Eccl 7:20/ Rom 3:10
   Christians are sinless
   1 John 3: 9,6,8
   120. There is to be a resurrection of the dead
   1 Cor 15:52/ Rev 20:12,13/ Luke 20:37/ 1 Cor 15:16
   There is to be no resurrection of the dead
   Job 7:9/ Eccl 9:5/ Is 26:14
   121. Reward and punishment to be bestowed in this world
   Prov 11:31
   Reward and punishment to be bestowed in the next world
   Rev 20:12/ Matt 16:27/ 2 Cor 5:10
   122. Annihilation the portion of all mankind
   Job 3: 11,13-17,19-22/ Eccl 9:5,10/ Eccl 3:19,20
   Endless misery the portion of all mankind
   Matt 25:46/ Rev 20:10,15/ Rev 14:11/ Dan 12:2
   123. The Earth is to be destroyed
   2 Pet 3:10/ Heb 1:11/ Rev 20:11
   The Earth is never to be destroyed
   Ps 104:5/ Eccl 1:4
   124. No evil shall happen to the godly
   Prov 12:21/ 1 Pet 3:13
   Evil does happen to the godly
   Heb 12:6/ Job 2:3,7
   125. Worldly good and prosperity are the lot of the godly
   Prov 12:21/ Ps 37:28,32,33,37/ Ps 1:1,3/ Gen 39:2/
   Job 42:12
   Worldly misery and destitution the lot of the godly
   Heb 11:37,38/ Rev 7:14/ 2 Tim 3:12/ Luke 21:17
   126. Worldly prosperity a reward of righteousness and a blessing
   Mark 10:29,30/ Ps 37:25/ Ps 112:1,3/ Job 22:23,24/
   Prov 15:6
   Worldly prosperity a curse and a bar to future reward
   Luke 6:20,24/ Matt 6:19,21/ Luke 16:22/ Matt 19:24/
   Luke 6:24
   127. The Christian yoke is easy
   Matt 11:28,29,30
   The Christian yoke is not easy
   John 16:33/ 2 Tim 3:12/ Heb 12:6,8
   128. The fruit of God's spirit is love and gentleness
   Gal 5:22
   The fruit of God's spirit is vengeance and fury
   Judg 15:14/ 1 Sam 18:10,11
   129. Longevity enjoyed by the wicked
   Job 21:7,8/ Ps 17:14/ Eccl 8:12/ Is 65:20
   Longevity denied to the wicked
   Eccl 8:13/ Ps 55:23/ Prov 10:27/ Job 36:14/ Eccl 7:17
   130. Poverty a blessing
   Luke 6:20,24/ Jams 2:5
   Riches a blessing
   Prov 10:15/ Job 22:23,24/ Job 42:12
   Neither poverty nor riches a blessing
   Prov 30:8,9
   131. Wisdom a source of enjoyment
   Prov 3:13,17
   Wisdom a source of vexation, grief and sorrow
   Eccl 1:17,18
   132. A good name is a blessing
   Eccl 7:1/ Prov 22:1
   A good name is a curse
   Luke 6:26
   133. Laughter commended
   Eccl 3:1,4/ Eccl 8:15
   Laughter condemned
   Luke 6:25/ Eccl 7:3,4
   134. The rod of correction a remedy for foolishness
   Prov 22:15
   There is no remedy for foolishness
   Prov 27:22
   135. A fool should be answered according to his folly
   Prov 26:5
   A fool should not be answered according to his folly
   Prov 26:4
   136. Temptation to be desired
   James 1:2
   Temptation not to be desired
   Matt 6:13
   137. Prophecy is sure
   2 Pet 1:19
   Prophecy is not sure
   Jer 18:7-10
   138. Man's life was to be one hundred and twenty years
   Gen 6:3/ Ps 90:10
   Man's life is but seventy years
   Ps 90:10
   139. The fear of man was to be upon every beast
   Gen 9:2
   The fear of man is not upon the lion
   Prov 30:30
   140. Miracles a proof of divine mission
   Matt 11:2-5/ John 3:2/ Ex 14:31
   Miracles not a proof of divine mission
   Ex 7:10-12/ Deut 13:1-3/ Luke 11:19
   141. Moses was a very meek man
   Num 12:3
   Moses was a very cruel man
   Num 31:15,17
   142. Elijah went up to heaven
   2 Kings 2:11
   None but Christ ever ascended into heaven
   John 3:13
   143. All scripture is inspired
   2 Tim 3:16
   Some scripture is not inspired
   1 Cor 7:6/ 1 Cor 7:12/ 2 Cor 11:17

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 Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
 peace, but a sword.
 - Matthew 10:34

 ... all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
 - Matthew 26:52

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 For wrath killeth the foolish man...
 - Job 5:2

 ... let not the sun go down on your wrath.
 - Ephesians 4:26

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 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, even the Son of man which
 is in heaven.
 - John 3:13

 ... and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
 - 2 Kings 2:11

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 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
 - John 5:31

 I am one that bear witness of myself...
 - John 8:18
 [Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]

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 A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children...
 - Proverbs 13:22

 Sell that ye have and give alms...
 - Luke 12:33

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 Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord... Wealth and riches
 shall be in his house...
 - Psalms 112:1-3

 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than
 for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
 - Matthew 19:24

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 I and my father are one.
 - John 10:30

 ... I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
 - John 14:28
 [Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]

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 Thou shalt not kill
 - Exodus 20:13

 Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his
 side... and slay every man his brother...
 - Exodus 32:27

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 Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.
 - Exodus 20:8

 The new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot
 away with: it is iniquity.
 - Isaiah 3:22

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 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
 of anything that is in heaven... earth... [or] water.
 - Leviticus 26:11

 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt
 thou make them.
 - Exodus 25:18

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 For by grace are ye saved through faith... not of works.
 - Ephesians 2:8-9

 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by
 faith only.
 - James 2:24

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 God is not a man, that he should lie: neither the son of man,
 that he should repent.
 - Numbers 23:19

 And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his
 people.
 - Exodus 32:14

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 ... the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall
 hear his voice, and come forth...
 - John 5:28-29

 As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth
 down to the grave shall come up no more.
 - Job 7:9

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 ... thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth,
 hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for
 wound, stripe for stripe.
 - Exodus 21:23-25

 ... resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right
 cheek, turn to him the other also.
 - Matthew 5:39

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 Honor thy father and mother.
 - Exodus 20:12

 If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, and
 wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own
 life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 - Luke 14:26

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 Lay not up for yourself treasures upon the earth...
 - Matthew 6:19

 In the house of the righteous is much treasure...
 - Proverbs 15:6

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 I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
 - Genesis 32:30

 No man hath seen God at any time.
 - John 1:18

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 The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.
 - Ezekiel 18:20

 ... I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of
 the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth
 generation.
 - Exodus 20:5

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 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth
 understanding.
 - Proverbs 3:13

 For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
 knowledge increaseth sorrow.
 - Ecclesiastes 1:18

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 The Lord is good to all.
 - Psalm 145:6

 I make peace and create evil.  I the Lord do all these things.
 - Isaiah 45:7

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 Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.
 - Matthew 5:22

 [Jesus said] Ye fools and blind.
 - Matthew 23:17

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 For all have sinned.
 - Romans 3:23

 There was a man... whose name was Job; and that man was perfect
 and upright.
 - Job 1:1

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 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.
 - 2 Kings 8:26

 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.
 - 2 Chronicles 22:2

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 If a man vow a vow unto the Lord or swear an oath... he shall do
 according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
 - Numbers 30:2

 But I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven... nor by
 earth.
 - Matthew 5:34-35

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 ... the earth abideth forever.
 - Ecclesiastes 1:4

 ... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and
 the works that are therein shall be burned up.
 - 2 Peter 3:10

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 ... for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger
 forever.
 - Jeremiah 3:12

 Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever.
 - Jeremiah 17:4

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 ... God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.
 - James 1:13

 And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt
 Abraham.
 - Genesis 22:1

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 And God saw everything that he made, and behold it was very good.
 - Genesis 1:31

 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it
 grieved him at his heart
 - Genesis 6:6

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 For now have I chosen and sanctified this house that my name be
 there forever; and mine eyes and my heart shall be there
 perpetually.
 - II Corinthians 7:16

 Howbeit the most high dwelleth not in temples made with hands.
 - Acts 7:48

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 [God dwells] in the light which no man can approach unto.
 - I Timothy 6:16

 The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.

 - I Kings 8:12

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 And the Lord called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 
 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid.
 - Genesis 3:9,10

 Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seen his shape.
 - John 5:37

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 Then went up Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the
 elders of Israel.  And they saw the God of Israel... They saw
 God, and did eat and drink.
 - Exodus 24: 9-11

 Whom no man hath seen nor can see.
 - I Timothy 6:16

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 With God all things are possible.
 - Matthew 29:26

 And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of
 the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the
 valley, because they had chariots of iron.
 - Judges 1:19

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 God is not the author of confusion.
 - I Corinthians 24:33

 Out of the mouth of the most high proceedeth not evil and good?
 - Lamentations 3:38

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 Those that seek me early shall find me.
 - Proverbs 8:17

 Then shall they call upon me but I will not answer; they shall
 seek me early, but shall not find me.
 - Proverbs 1:28

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 On the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of
 atonement; it shall be a holy convocation unto you; and ye shall
 afflict your souls and offer an offering made by fire unto the
 Lord.
 - Leviticus 23:27

 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day
 that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt
 offering or sacrifices.
 - Jeremiah 7:22

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 And the priest shall burn all on the altar to be a burnt
 sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savor unto the
 Lord.
 - Leviticus 1:9

 Your burnt offering are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet
 unto me.
 - Jeremiah 7:20

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 God is not a man, that he should lie
 - Numbers 23:19

 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the
 Lord have deceived that prophet.
 - Ezekiel 24:9

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 There is none other God but one.
 - I Corinthians 8:4

 And God said, Let us make man in our image.
 - Genesis 1:26

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 When ye go, ye shall not go empty; but every woman shall borrow
 of her neighbor, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels
 of silver and jewels of gold, and raiment; and ye shall put them
 on your sons and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the
 Egyptians.
 - Exodus 3:21,22

 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor, nether rob him.
 - Leviticus 19:13

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 At the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of
 man.  Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.
 - Genesis 4:5,6

 And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should
 kill him.
 - Genesis 4:15

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 Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not,
 neither do they spin... if God so clothe the grass of the
 field... shall he not much more clothe you?  Therefore, take no
 thought, saying what shall we eat?  or what shall we drink?  or
 wherewithal shall we be clothed?... Take, therefore, no thought
 for the morrow.
 - Matthew 6:28, 30-34

 But if any provideth not for his own, especially for those of his
 own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an
 infidel.
 - I Timothy 5:8

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 Be ye angry and sin not.
 - Ephesians 4:26

 Be not hasty in they spirit to be angry; for anger resideth in
 the bosom of fools.
 - Ecclesiastes 7:9

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 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good
 works.
 - Matthew 5:16

 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of
 them.
 - Matthew 6:1

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 And Solomon stood before the alter of the Lord, in the presence
 of all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands
 toward heaven...
 - I Kings 7:22

 When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are; for
 they love to pray standing in the synagogues, and in the corners
 of the streets, that they may be seen of men...
 - Matthew 6:5

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 And no razor shall come on his head; for the child shall be a
 Nazarite unto God from the womb.
 - Judges 8:5

 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that if a man hath long
 hair, it is a shame unto him?
 - I Corinthians 6:14

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 Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
 - Exodus 20:8

 One man esteemeth one day above another; another esteemeth every
 day alike.  Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
 - Romans 14:5

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 For in the six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and
 all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the
 Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
 - Exodus 20:11

 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and
 that the Lord thy God brought the out thence through a mighty
 hand and by a stretched-out arm; therefore the Lord thy God
 commanded the to keep the Sabbath day.
 - Deuteronomy 5:15

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 There is nothing unclean of itself.
 - Romans 14:14

 Nevertheless, these shall ye not eat, of them that chew the cud
 or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel and the
 hare, and the coney; for they chew the cud, but divide not the
 hoof, therefore they are unclean unto you.  And the swine,
 because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is
 unclean unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch
 their dead carcass.
 - Deuteronomy 14:7,8

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 Cursed is he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his
 father, or the daughter of his mother.
 - Deuteronomy 27:22

 And Abraham said... She is my sister; she is the daughter of my
 father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my
 wife.
 - Genesis 20:11,12

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 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die and have no
 child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a
 stranger; her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take
 her to him to wife.
 - Deuteronomy 25:5

 If a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing...
 they shall be childless.
 - Leviticus 20:21

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 He that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
 forgiveness.
 - Mark 3:29

 And by him that believe are justified from all things.
 - Acts 13:39

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 [John the Baptist] is Elias which was for to come.
 - Matthew 11:14

 And they asked him, what then? Art thou [John the Baptist] Elias? 
 And he saith, I am not.
 - John 1:21

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 Now, after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee,
 preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God.
 - Mark 1:14

 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of
 Judea... and John was also baptizing Enon... for John was not yet
 cast into prison.
 - John 3:22-24

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 And it was in the third hour, and they crucified him.
 - Mark 25:3-4

 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth
 hour; and he saith unto the Jews, behold your king... Shall I
 crucify your king?
 - John 19:14-15

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 They gave him vinegar to drink, mingled with gall.
 - Matthew 27:34

 And they gave him to drink, wine mingled with myrrh.
 - Mark 15:23
 [Jesus was the thirsty chap in both verses.]

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 And the men which journeyed with [Paul] stood speechless, hearing
 a voice, but seeing no man.
 - Acts 9:7

 And they that were with me [Paul] saw indeed the light and were
 afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
 - Acts 22:9

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 Abraham had two sons; one by a bonds-maid, the other by a free
 woman.
 - Galatians 4:22

 By faith, Abraham when he was tried offered up Isaac... his only
 begotten son.
 - Hebrews 11:17

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 Therefore Michal, the daughter of Saul, had no child unto the day
 of her death.
 - II Samuel 6:23

 The five sons of Michal, the daughter of Saul.
 - II Samuel 21:8

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 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he
 moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel.
 - II Samuel 24:1

 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number
 Israel.
 - I Chronicles 21:1

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 All power is given unto [Jesus] in heaven and in earth.
 - Matthew 28:18

 And [Jesus] could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his
 hands on a few sick folk and healed them.
 - Mark 6:5

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 There shall no evil happen to the just.
 - Proverbs 12:21

 Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom
 he receiveth.
 - Hebrews 12:6

***δεσμεύεται για άλλα παραδοξίες των ιερών κειμένων...

nasos79: απλά άνοιξα καινούργιο θέμα με αφορμή τον διάλογο μεταξύ εμού και του gavriil1, σχετικά με το γιατί δεν πρέπει να παίρνουμε τις γραφές στην κυριολεξία. Γράφτηκαν από ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΥΣ και όχι από Θεό/Θεούς.

**Στην προκειμένη περίπτωση, οι 'δικές μας' γραφές είναι απλά τα ήθη και τα έθιμα των Ισραηλιτών της τότε εποχής, καθώς και αρχαίες πρακτικές που ήταν κοινές στους τότε λαούς. **

Μπορώ να αραδιάσω σελίδες και σελίδες από τις Γραφές πολλών θρησκειών και να επισημάνω πράγματα που σήμερα είναι αδιανόητα(και όμως, οι Γραφές ποτέ δεν 'αλλάχθηκαν', καθώς αυτοί που τις έγραψαν είχαν 'θεία έμπνευση').

Φιλικά, Βασίλης.

Ο χρήστης kouk έγραψε:

Καλά έκανες αλλά είναι ΑΔΥΝΑΤΟΝ να κάτσει και να διαβάσει κάποιος τόσο μεγάλα κείμενα στον υπολογιστή!!!!

Μην προσπαθείτε να τα διαβάσετε όλα με τη μια...Σιγά-σιγά, για να τα καταλαβαίνετε κιόλας.

Aπό το 1ο post μπορείς να πεις ποιά κομμάτια είναι από Καινή και ποιά από Παλαιά Διαθήκη?

Στην Παλαιά Διαθήκη γράφονται πολλά και διάφορα τα οποία όμως υποτίθεται δεν αφορούν εμάς (και γενικα όποιον έζησε μετά τη σταύρωση).

Δυστυχώς, δεν μπορώ: τα έβαλα όλα μαζί.
Στο 3ο μου post έχω επίσης αρκετές αλληλοσυγκρουόμενες εκφράσεις των Γραφών/απόψεις προφητών κ.λ.π.

king alexander na sou pw egw ti pisteuw? to 8ema den einai n uparxei 8eos, allax, boudas klp klp. to 8ema einai oti prepei na to blepoume san filosofia zwhs. ti ennow... an oloi mas hmastan kaloi xristianoi (ennowntas oti den prepei na kleboume, na skotwnoume, na sebomaste klp) de 8a htan polu omorfoteros o kosmos mas? to paixnidi xereis pou xanetai? sth gnwsh. osa perissotera gnwrizoume toso apomakrunomaste. kai einai kai logiko auto... sto sxoleio mas eixan pei thn istoria enos autokratora tou buzantiou pou phgaine kapws etsi:

o tupos autos eixe trela8ei. ton eixan faei ta erwthmata. pou einai o 8eos? giati den emfanizetai? poso xronwn einai? pws gennh8hke? klp klp. xronia kratouse auth h istoria. eixe apomonw8ei apo olous kai apo ola. katebaine ka8e mera sthn paralia kai perpatouse monos tou kai prospa8ouse na apanthsei. se kapoia stigmh sunanta ena paidaki pou epaize me to koubadaki tou sthn akro8alassia. to rwthse ti ekane ekei.
-prospa8w na xwresw olh th 8alassa se authn thn trupa, apanthse to paidi.
-ma auto den mporei na ginei, eipe o autokratwr
-tote oute ki esu mporeis na xwreseis oloklhro to 8eo mesa sto mualo sou...

htan aggelos kuriou me liga logia. to 8ema einai akribws auto. giati xreiazomaste xeiropiasta pragmata gia na pistepsoume se kati?

Bruce, αν είμασταν όλοι μας καλοί άνθρωποι και σεβόμασταν τους νόμους, φυσικά θα ήταν καλύτερος ο κόσμος μας.

Για την Γνώση που αναφέρεις, δεν μπορώ να συμφωνήσω, γιατί αυτό προϋποθέτει περιορισμό της σκέψης μας και αυτό, για εμένα τουλάχιστον, είναι αδιανόητο(το να μην κρίνω τους πάντες και τα πάντα, να μην βγάζω λογικά συμπεράσματα και να μην 'ψάχνω' πράγματα).
Η Ιστορία της Ελλάδας και ο παγκόσμιος θαυμασμός για το παρελθόν της έγκειται στο ότι ακριβώς είχαν αυτή τη νοοτροπία.
Όσο περισσότερα μαθαίνουμε, τόσο καλύτεροι γινόμαστε και αυτή την Γνώση πρέπει να χρησιμοποιούμε για να καλυτερεύσουμε τη ζωή μας καθώς και τις ζωές όλων των ανθρώπων στη Γη.

Το αν χρειαζόμαστε χειροπιαστά πράγματα για να πιστέψουμε σε κάτι, έγκειται στην κρίση του καθενός, αλλά τα 'χειροπιαστά' είναι απαραίτητα για την επιστήμη, γιατί αλλιώς ο καθένας μπορεί να ισχυριστεί ότι θέλει και να υποστηρίξει όποια θεωρία θέλει(αυτό, γίνεται και στην επιστήμη κάποιες φορές, βέβαια, κυρίως με θεωρίες που η υπάρχουσα τεχνολογία αδυνατεί να αποδείξει, αλλά μέχρι να αποδειχθεί κάτι στα σίγουρα, δεν μπορούμε να είμαστε σίγουροι, φυσικά).
Π.χ.: ο Ηράκλειτος είχε μιλήσει για την διάσπαση του Ατόμου χιλιάδες χρόνια πριν(!), αλλά πότε μπορέσαμε να το επιβεβαιώσουμε;
Η Θεωρία της Σχετικότητας δεν είναι ακριβώς όπως την είχε διατυπώσει ο Άινσταϊν, καθώς κάποια πράγματα ήταν 'λάθος' και διορθώθηκαν από μεταγενέστερους επιστήμονες. Φυσικά, δεν ήταν λάθος όλη η Θεωρία της Σχετικότητας!

Βασιζόμενοι σε αποδειχθέντα πράγματα, μπορούμε να κάνουμε υποθέσεις/θεωρίες για πράγματα που η υπάρχουσα τεχνολογία αδυνατεί να αποδείξει(προς το παρόν): μέχρι τότε, παραμένουν υποθέσεις και θεωρίες(έστω και αν, θεωρητικά, επαληθεύονται σε μεγάλο βαθμό).

Δλδ, θα πρότεινες οι 'γραφές' κάθε θρησκείας να αλλάζονται κάθε τόσο;

Και, δεύτερον, πιστεύεις οτι μπορούμε - πρέπει να ερμηνεύσουμε τις γραφές κάθε θρησκείας στο 4ΤΦ;

Αν προσπαθείς να make a point, θα πρότεινα να το πεις από την αρχή κι αν μπορούμε το συζητάμε. Μέχρι τότε, συμφωνώ απόλυτα με τον kouk: Παραθέτοντας αποσπασματικά την παλαιά / καινή διαθήκη, το κοράνι, ευαγγέλια και δεν ξέρω τι άλλο, το μόνο σίγουρο είναι ότι αδυνατούμε να τα διαβάσουμε. (Άσε που δεν είμαι σίγουρος ότι θέλουμε)...

Αυτό που λέω είναι να ΜΗΝ παίρνουμε τις οποιεσδήποτε Γραφές τις μετρητοίς, γιατί είναι βέβαιο ότι θα οδηγήσει σε επικίνδυνες καταστάσεις.

Η επίσημη ελληνική εκκλησία λέει να μην ερμηνεύουμε τις Γραφές κυριολεκτικά, το ίδιο είπε και η επίσημη καθολική εκκλησία πρόσφατα: γράφτηκαν από ανθρώπους άλλης εποχής, που αντιλαμβάνονταν τον κόσμο αλλιώς και τα ήθη και έθιμά τους ήταν διαφορετικά από τα σημερινά(π.χ.: η Δουλεία ήταν κοινώς αποδεκτή στον αρχαίο κόσμο).

Το όλο θέμα ξεκίνησε με αφορμή θρησκείες/αιρέσεις που παίρνουν στην κυριολεξία αυτές τις Γραφές.
Όταν ξέσπασε το σκάνδαλο με το βίο και την πολιτεία της ελληνικής εκκλησίας και αρκετών(όχι όλων) ιερέων της πριν από μερικούς μήνες, αυτοί που πίστευαν, έπαψαν να πιστεύουν; Αν αύριο βγει στην δημοσιότητα ότι ο Χριστόδουλος ή ο Πάπας διέπραξαν και απέκρυψαν εγκλήματα, οι πιστοί θα σταματήσουν να πιστεύουν στο Θεό; Ακριβώς αυτό είναι το θέμα και με τις Γραφές. Μπορεί να είχαν καλό σκοπό αυτοί που τις έγραψαν, αλλά δεν παύουν να γράφτηκαν από ανθρώπους, οι οποίοι αντιλαμβάνονταν αλλιώς τον τότε κόσμο.

Όσο για το αν μπορούμε να συζητήσουμε για τέτοια θέματα στο 4ΤΦ, γιατί όχι; Στον Αντίλογο υπάρχουν διαφόρων ειδών θέματα. Σίγουρα, ο καθένας δεν είναι υποχρεωμένος να απαντήσει, αν δεν θέλει.

Ο χρήστης skullone έγραψε:

... κι αν μπεις στον κόπο να διαβάσεις τα μεταχριcτιανικά κείμενα θα δεις πόση αγάπη είχαν στην Ελλάδα οι καλοί αυτοί 'άγιοι πατέρες'), αρκεί για να γίνει κατάπτυστη μια θρησκεία.

Οι χαρακτηρισμοί μιας θρησκείας, είναι στην κρίση του καθενός.

Πάντως, όσον αφορά την ιστορία της θρησκείας στην Ελλάδα μερικούς αιώνες έπειτα από την επικράτηση των Ρωμαίων, έχω να πω λίγα πράγματα παρακάτω:

Ας μην μιλήσουμε καλύτερα για το πώς αντιμετωπίζονταν οι Έλληνες όταν επικράτησε η νέα θρησκεία στη Ρωμαϊκή αυτοκρατορία και αργότερα στο Βυζάντιο και τι σημασία είχε η λέξη Έλληνας(στο Βυζάντιο: χειρότερη από σκύλου και δεν τολμούσε κανένας να πει αυτήν τη λέξη) ή για τη σφαγή σχεδόν του 1/3 του τότε πληθυσμού για να επιβληθεί η νέα θρησκεία αλλά και σε μεταγενέστερα χρόνια(αλλά, αυτά, όλως τυχαίως, αποφεύγουμε να τα πούμε με το όνομά τους στην Ιστορία στα σχολεία μας).
Και να σκεφθεί κανείς ότι υπάρχουν πολλές μαρτυρίες τότε ιερέων σε κείμενα που τα αποδεικνύουν όλα αυτά(δεν χρειάζεται καν η μαρτυρία των 'διωχθέντων/εξοντωμένων').

Ας μην μιλήσουμε για την επανάσταση του '21 και πώς επιτεύχθηκε η υποστήριξη της εκκλησίας και ο περίφημος όρκος που έδωσαν οι επαναστάτες ενώπιον του Παλαιών Πατρών Γερμανού.