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    Fiat+GM = Κοινη πλατφορμα για Stilo και Astra
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      gavriil1 last edited by

      ...και απο οτι φενεται τα πλανα για εισοδο της Αλφα στις ΗΠΑ υπαρχουν ακομη (για το 2007 τωρα).

      Αγη, μεταφραση please. Αυτο το αρθρο εχει πολυ καλες πληροφοριες για αλλα σχετικα θεματα επισης, αξιζει μεταφραση.


      (08:30 March 26, 2003)
      GM and Fiat may share again; mid-sized platform has potential to carry 1 million vehicles a year

      By LUCA CIFERRI | Automotive News Europe

      Fiat S.p.A. and General Motors are near a decision to develop a common platform for the Fiat Stilo and Opel Astra.

      The plan is in an analytical phase, said Fiat Auto CEO Giancarlo Boschetti in a presentation to financial analysts.

      GM Europe declined to comment. It is working on a redesigned Astra that will appear at the Frankfurt auto show in September and go on sale in early 2004. The new Astra uses an evolution of the current Astra T platform.

      The middle-range architecture platform would be the basis of the replacements for the Stilo in 2007 and the successor to the redesigned Astra.

      The cars compete in Europe's largest market segment, called the C segment, which includes the Volkswagen Golf. Boschetti has said

      1 million vehicles would be produced off the platform annually. The middle-range team would be based at Opel in Russelsheim, Germany.

      Boschetti said existing common platforms with GM are yielding a 5 percent reduction in development costs. 'But we are fighting like hell to reach 10 percent,' he said.

      Fiat and GM have two common platforms:

      1. The premium vehicle architecture project begun in late 2000 has been developed in Sweden by Saab and Alfa Romeo. Alfa will use the platform for its 'Project 939' models, the sedan and station wagon that will replace the 156, plus new editions of the Spider and GTV Coupe.

      The 939 sedan will debut in the spring of 2005 and the Spider in early 2006. The 939 cars will lead the return of Alfa Romeo to the U.S. market starting in 2007, together with the compact crossover previewed in Geneva by the Kamal concept car.

      Constrained by financial difficulties, Saab abandoned plans to use the premium architecture for the 9-5 sedan and wagon replacements and the next-generation 9-3.

      1. The small-vehicle architecture project, launched in February 2002, is being developed by about 100 Opel and Fiat engineers in Turin, Italy. The platform will debut on the 2005 Fiat Punto replacement, which also will serve as the 2006 Palio world car successor. The 2006-07 Opel Corsa replacement also will be derived from the platform, followed by successors to the Lancia Ypsilon, Fiat Idea and Opel Meriva.

      Ulrich Schmalohr, Opel's chief engineer for small cars, is in charge of the small team. Fiat Auto engineer Giorgio Cornacchia is the project's chief engineer.

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        gavriil1 last edited by

        ...και απο οτι φενεται τα πλανα για εισοδο της Αλφα στις ΗΠΑ υπαρχουν ακομη (για το 2007 τωρα).

        Αγη, μεταφραση please. Αυτο το αρθρο εχει πολυ καλες πληροφοριες για αλλα σχετικα θεματα επισης, αξιζει μεταφραση.


        (08:30 March 26, 2003)
        GM and Fiat may share again; mid-sized platform has potential to carry 1 million vehicles a year

        By LUCA CIFERRI | Automotive News Europe

        Fiat S.p.A. and General Motors are near a decision to develop a common platform for the Fiat Stilo and Opel Astra.

        The plan is in an analytical phase, said Fiat Auto CEO Giancarlo Boschetti in a presentation to financial analysts.

        GM Europe declined to comment. It is working on a redesigned Astra that will appear at the Frankfurt auto show in September and go on sale in early 2004. The new Astra uses an evolution of the current Astra T platform.

        The middle-range architecture platform would be the basis of the replacements for the Stilo in 2007 and the successor to the redesigned Astra.

        The cars compete in Europe's largest market segment, called the C segment, which includes the Volkswagen Golf. Boschetti has said

        1 million vehicles would be produced off the platform annually. The middle-range team would be based at Opel in Russelsheim, Germany.

        Boschetti said existing common platforms with GM are yielding a 5 percent reduction in development costs. 'But we are fighting like hell to reach 10 percent,' he said.

        Fiat and GM have two common platforms:

        1. The premium vehicle architecture project begun in late 2000 has been developed in Sweden by Saab and Alfa Romeo. Alfa will use the platform for its 'Project 939' models, the sedan and station wagon that will replace the 156, plus new editions of the Spider and GTV Coupe.

        The 939 sedan will debut in the spring of 2005 and the Spider in early 2006. The 939 cars will lead the return of Alfa Romeo to the U.S. market starting in 2007, together with the compact crossover previewed in Geneva by the Kamal concept car.

        Constrained by financial difficulties, Saab abandoned plans to use the premium architecture for the 9-5 sedan and wagon replacements and the next-generation 9-3.

        1. The small-vehicle architecture project, launched in February 2002, is being developed by about 100 Opel and Fiat engineers in Turin, Italy. The platform will debut on the 2005 Fiat Punto replacement, which also will serve as the 2006 Palio world car successor. The 2006-07 Opel Corsa replacement also will be derived from the platform, followed by successors to the Lancia Ypsilon, Fiat Idea and Opel Meriva.

        Ulrich Schmalohr, Opel's chief engineer for small cars, is in charge of the small team. Fiat Auto engineer Giorgio Cornacchia is the project's chief engineer.

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          gavriil1 last edited by

          ...και απο οτι φενεται τα πλανα για εισοδο της Αλφα στις ΗΠΑ υπαρχουν ακομη (για το 2007 τωρα).

          Αγη, μεταφραση please. Αυτο το αρθρο εχει πολυ καλες πληροφοριες για αλλα σχετικα θεματα επισης, αξιζει μεταφραση.


          (08:30 March 26, 2003)
          GM and Fiat may share again; mid-sized platform has potential to carry 1 million vehicles a year

          By LUCA CIFERRI | Automotive News Europe

          Fiat S.p.A. and General Motors are near a decision to develop a common platform for the Fiat Stilo and Opel Astra.

          The plan is in an analytical phase, said Fiat Auto CEO Giancarlo Boschetti in a presentation to financial analysts.

          GM Europe declined to comment. It is working on a redesigned Astra that will appear at the Frankfurt auto show in September and go on sale in early 2004. The new Astra uses an evolution of the current Astra T platform.

          The middle-range architecture platform would be the basis of the replacements for the Stilo in 2007 and the successor to the redesigned Astra.

          The cars compete in Europe's largest market segment, called the C segment, which includes the Volkswagen Golf. Boschetti has said

          1 million vehicles would be produced off the platform annually. The middle-range team would be based at Opel in Russelsheim, Germany.

          Boschetti said existing common platforms with GM are yielding a 5 percent reduction in development costs. 'But we are fighting like hell to reach 10 percent,' he said.

          Fiat and GM have two common platforms:

          1. The premium vehicle architecture project begun in late 2000 has been developed in Sweden by Saab and Alfa Romeo. Alfa will use the platform for its 'Project 939' models, the sedan and station wagon that will replace the 156, plus new editions of the Spider and GTV Coupe.

          The 939 sedan will debut in the spring of 2005 and the Spider in early 2006. The 939 cars will lead the return of Alfa Romeo to the U.S. market starting in 2007, together with the compact crossover previewed in Geneva by the Kamal concept car.

          Constrained by financial difficulties, Saab abandoned plans to use the premium architecture for the 9-5 sedan and wagon replacements and the next-generation 9-3.

          1. The small-vehicle architecture project, launched in February 2002, is being developed by about 100 Opel and Fiat engineers in Turin, Italy. The platform will debut on the 2005 Fiat Punto replacement, which also will serve as the 2006 Palio world car successor. The 2006-07 Opel Corsa replacement also will be derived from the platform, followed by successors to the Lancia Ypsilon, Fiat Idea and Opel Meriva.

          Ulrich Schmalohr, Opel's chief engineer for small cars, is in charge of the small team. Fiat Auto engineer Giorgio Cornacchia is the project's chief engineer.

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            markvag last edited by

            ΚΑΛΗΜΕΡΑ!!!

            ΕΙΝΑΙ ΑΠΟΛΥΤΩΣ ΦΥΣΙΚΗ ΑΥΤΗ Η ΕΞΕΛΙΞΗ. ΚΑΙ Η FIAT AUTO ΚΑΙ Η GM EUROPE ΧΑΝΟΥΝ ΧΡΗΜΑΤΑ ΣΑΝ ΤΡΕΛΕΣ (Η FIAT ΧΑΝΕΙ ΠΕΡΙΠΟΥ 5 ΕΚ ΕΥΡΩ ΚΑΘΕ ΜΕΡΑ!!!! ). ΕΙΝΑΙ ΛΟΓΙΚΟ ΝΑ ΣΥΝΕΡΓΑΣΤΟΥΝ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΜΕΙΩΣΟΥΝ ΤΟ ΚΟΣΤΟΣ ΠΑΡΑΓΩΓΗΣ. ΜΗΝ ΣΑΣ ΕΚΠΛΗΞΕΙ ΑΝ ΔΕΙΤΕ ΑΚΟΜΑ ΠΕΡΙΣΣΟΤΕΡΕΣ ΣΥΝΕΡΓΕΙΕΣ ΣΤΟ ΜΕΛΛΟΝ (Π.Χ. ΤΟ SUVΛΑΚΙ ΤΗΣ ALFA ΝΑ ΒΑΣΙΖΕΤΑΙ ΣΕ ΠΛΑΤΦΟΡΜΑ ΚΑΠΟΙΟΥ SUVΛΑΚΙΟΥ ΤΗΣ ΑΜΕΡΙΚΑΝΙΚΗΣ G.M.). ΠΑΡΟΛΟ ΠΟΥ ΠΟΛΛΟΙ ΑΝΑΤΡΙΧΙΑΖΟΥΝ ΜΟΝΟ ΚΑΙ ΜΟΝΟ ΣΤΗΝ ΙΔΕΑ ΜΙΑ ALFA GTV ΝΑ ΕΧΕΙ ΚΟΙΝΑ ΜΕ ΕΝΑ ΟΙΚΟΓΕΝΕΙΑΚΟ OPEL (ΚΑΙ ΕΓΩ ΜΕΤΑΞΥ ΤΟΥΣ) ΙΣΩΣ ΝΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ Ο ΜΟΝΟΣ ΤΡΟΠΟΣ ΝΑ ΣΩΘΕΙ Η FIAT.

            ΕΞΑΛΛΟΥ Η GM ΕΧΕΙ ΑΠΟΔΕΙΞΕΙ ΟΤΙ ΜΠΟΡΕΙ ΝΑ ΚΑΤΑΣΚΕΥΑΖΕΙ ΑΞΙΕΣ ΒΑΣΕΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ ΑΦΗΝΕΙ ΤΙΣ ΕΠΙ ΜΕΡΟΥΣ ΕΤΑΙΡΕΙΕΣ ΝΑ ΚΑΝΟΥΝ ΕΝΑ ΠΟΛΥ ΚΑΛΟ ΤΕΛΙΚΟ ΠΡΟΪΟΝ (ΠΧ ΝΕΟ SAAB 93). ΧΩΡΙΑ ΠΟΥ ΕΤΣΙ Η FIAT (KAI H ALFA) ΑΠΟΚΤΟΥΝ ΡΟΣΒΑΣΗ ΣΕ ΠΙΣΩΚΙΝΗΤΟ HARDWARE

            ΤΙ ΝΑ ΠΕΙΣ, ΟΜΩΣ... ΑΦΟΥ ΤΑ ΣΑΪΝΙΑ ΤΟΥ GRUPPO ΤΑ ΚΑΤΑΦΕΡΑΝ ΝΑ ΚΑΝΟΥΝ ΤΗΝ ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΙΑ ΣΑΝ ΤΑ ΜΟΥΤΡΑ ΤΟΥΣ...

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              skullone last edited by

              Γλαύκαν εις τας Αθήνας...

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                mm55 last edited by

                Θα παρακαλούσα ακόμη μία φορά (αλλά εσείς τον χαβά σας ) να μην βάζετε κείμενα στ' αγγλικά η σε άλλη γλώσσα, πλην της ελληνικής.
                Στην Ελλάδα ζούμε...

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                  pg220 last edited by

                  skullone καταπληκτικό το πιτσιρίκι που driftάρει....

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                    mm55 last edited by

                    Χίλιες φορές αυτό αν και βαρύ παρά οι σβάστικες κ.τ.λ.

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                      gatony last edited by

                      Όλα τα λεφτά το πιτσιρίκι,το οποίο κατέχει την τέχνη του στρίβειν...αποφασιστική,αποτελεσματική διόρθωση υπερστροφής με μια κίνηση!!!
                      Αγωνιστική θέση οδήγησης κοντά στο τιμόνι......ρίχνοντας το βάρος στο μπροστινό άξονα προκειμένου να αποκτήσει ικανοποιητική πρόσφυση και να.............. (καλά τι γράφω τόση ώρα? )

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                        gavriil1 last edited by

                        Ο χρήστης mm55 έγραψε:
                        Θα παρακαλούσα ακόμη μία φορά (αλλά εσείς τον χαβά σας ) να μην βάζετε κείμενα στ' αγγλικά η σε άλλη γλώσσα, πλην της ελληνικής.
                        Στην Ελλάδα ζούμε...

                        Το εβαλα διοτι καποιος (κυριως ο Αγης) τα μεταφραζει σε μερικες ωρες συνηθως. Οταν θα το δουμε το αρθρο σε καποιο Ελληνικο ΜΜΕ (πολλες φορες 1-3 μερες μετα), θα βαλουμε και το Ελληνικο στο θρεντ. Το νοημα ειναι στο subject και στην μια προταση που εγραψα. Δεν ειναι καλυτερα να υπαρχει αυτο το αρθρο, ακομη και σε αυτη την μορφη, παρα να μην υπαρχει?

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