AKROS SYMANTIKO!!!!!!!!!

Epi thn eukairia me to Kyoto......

Xerete giati h Europaikh Envsh elege na metafer8ei o foros apo thn Agora sthn Xrhsh tou autokinthtou??????

DIABASTE PARAKATO

Prin apo liges hmeres bghke sto Site ths Europaikhs envshs mia protash gia basismo ths plhromhs ton telon kykloforias me bash ta Kausaeria.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/taxation_cust ... 858_en.pdf

Me bash auta pou lene 8a ypologizoun ta telh kykloforias bash stis ekpompes CO2. Endiaferon einai o pinakas o opoios brisketai sthn Sellida No 11 opoi deixnei thn ek8etikh auxhsh tou Forou.

kai gia na eimaste kai episthmonika tekmhrivmenoi.
As paroume gia paradeigma ena 'Hyundai Accent 2002' tou opoiou ta stoixeia ta briskoume apo to site http://www.fueleconomy.gov.

Me bash ta stoixeia auta to autokinhto auto exei ekpompres 6.1 (CO2 Equivalent) Tons/Year. Apo auta to 70% einai CO2. O ari8mos autos einai basismenos se 15,000 milia ton xrono me 40% odhghma sto Highway kai 60% sthn polh.

An kanoume loipon ypologismous exoume:

6.1*0.7 = 4.27 tonous CO2 / xrono

Meta exoune:

4.27 x(1000 gramaria) x (1000 kyla ana tono) = 4.270.000 gr CO2

Ypologizoume ta gramaria ana xiliometro kai exoune:

(4270000)/(15000x1.6km/mile) = 177gr/Xiliometro

Me bash ton pinaka sthn sellida 11 ta telh kykloforias 8a einai peripou
!!!!!!800 Euro / Xrono!!!!!!!!!

Me bash tous idious ypologismous an ypo8esoume oti exoume mia BMW 325ci tou 2002 me 8.0 Tonous ana xrono.........

gia na mhn ta polylogav to teliko poso exnetai 233gr/Xiliometro sto opoio antisixei me !!!!!!!!!2000Euro!!!!!!!!!! / xrono.

Paidia me liga logia 8a mas piasoun TON KOLO.

Me meta edo sthm Amerikh peftoun me ta moutra sto autokinhta tvn 5.000cc kai emeis oi Europai 8a kanoume to skato paximadi gia na odhgame to karydosouflo mas. Xoria tis betzines

Kai gia na mhn lete oti leo malakies to meso autokinhto paragei 4 fores to baros tou se C02...to opoio einai 100% akribes me ta parapano noumera.

Apo thb Allh ta Diesel exoun poly pio xamhles forologies gia Telh. Blepe Sel 11

Ntroph!!!!!!!!

Kai epishs ntroph sto Ellhniko kratos to opoi exei to magalhtero pososta esodon apo ta autokinhta mesa sthn Europaikh envsh !!!!3.29%!!!! tou AEP me deuterh th Irlandia (sel 9).

Ego 8elo na do pos 8a kataferei o Simhths na 'yo8ethsh' to akros foroeispraxtiko metro ton telon.....Xoris na 8ysiasoun ta iyhla telh taxinomhshs

AUTA......

AKROS SYMANTIKO!!!!!!!!!

Epi thn eukairia me to Kyoto......

Xerete giati h Europaikh Envsh elege na metafer8ei o foros apo thn Agora sthn Xrhsh tou autokinthtou??????

DIABASTE PARAKATO

Prin apo liges hmeres bghke sto Site ths Europaikhs envshs mia protash gia basismo ths plhromhs ton telon kykloforias me bash ta Kausaeria.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/taxation_cust ... 858_en.pdf

Me bash auta pou lene 8a ypologizoun ta telh kykloforias bash stis ekpompes CO2. Endiaferon einai o pinakas o opoios brisketai sthn Sellida No 11 opoi deixnei thn ek8etikh auxhsh tou Forou.

kai gia na eimaste kai episthmonika tekmhrivmenoi.
As paroume gia paradeigma ena 'Hyundai Accent 2002' tou opoiou ta stoixeia ta briskoume apo to site http://www.fueleconomy.gov.

Me bash ta stoixeia auta to autokinhto auto exei ekpompres 6.1 (CO2 Equivalent) Tons/Year. Apo auta to 70% einai CO2. O ari8mos autos einai basismenos se 15,000 milia ton xrono me 40% odhghma sto Highway kai 60% sthn polh.

An kanoume loipon ypologismous exoume:

6.1*0.7 = 4.27 tonous CO2 / xrono

Meta exoune:

4.27 x(1000 gramaria) x (1000 kyla ana tono) = 4.270.000 gr CO2

Ypologizoume ta gramaria ana xiliometro kai exoune:

(4270000)/(15000x1.6km/mile) = 177gr/Xiliometro

Me bash ton pinaka sthn sellida 11 ta telh kykloforias 8a einai peripou
!!!!!!800 Euro / Xrono!!!!!!!!!

Me bash tous idious ypologismous an ypo8esoume oti exoume mia BMW 325ci tou 2002 me 8.0 Tonous ana xrono.........

gia na mhn ta polylogav to teliko poso exnetai 233gr/Xiliometro sto opoio antisixei me !!!!!!!!!2000Euro!!!!!!!!!! / xrono.

Paidia me liga logia 8a mas piasoun TON KOLO.

Me meta edo sthm Amerikh peftoun me ta moutra sto autokinhta tvn 5.000cc kai emeis oi Europai 8a kanoume to skato paximadi gia na odhgame to karydosouflo mas. Xoria tis betzines

Kai gia na mhn lete oti leo malakies to meso autokinhto paragei 4 fores to baros tou se C02...to opoio einai 100% akribes me ta parapano noumera.

Apo thb Allh ta Diesel exoun poly pio xamhles forologies gia Telh. Blepe Sel 11

Ntroph!!!!!!!!

Kai epishs ntroph sto Ellhniko kratos to opoi exei to magalhtero pososta esodon apo ta autokinhta mesa sthn Europaikh envsh !!!!3.29%!!!! tou AEP me deuterh th Irlandia (sel 9).

Ego 8elo na do pos 8a kataferei o Simhths na 'yo8ethsh' to akros foroeispraxtiko metro ton telon.....Xoris na 8ysiasoun ta iyhla telh taxinomhshs

AUTA......

AKROS SYMANTIKO!!!!!!!!!

Epi thn eukairia me to Kyoto......

Xerete giati h Europaikh Envsh elege na metafer8ei o foros apo thn Agora sthn Xrhsh tou autokinthtou??????

DIABASTE PARAKATO

Prin apo liges hmeres bghke sto Site ths Europaikhs envshs mia protash gia basismo ths plhromhs ton telon kykloforias me bash ta Kausaeria.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/taxation_cust ... 858_en.pdf

Me bash auta pou lene 8a ypologizoun ta telh kykloforias bash stis ekpompes CO2. Endiaferon einai o pinakas o opoios brisketai sthn Sellida No 11 opoi deixnei thn ek8etikh auxhsh tou Forou.

kai gia na eimaste kai episthmonika tekmhrivmenoi.
As paroume gia paradeigma ena 'Hyundai Accent 2002' tou opoiou ta stoixeia ta briskoume apo to site http://www.fueleconomy.gov.

Me bash ta stoixeia auta to autokinhto auto exei ekpompres 6.1 (CO2 Equivalent) Tons/Year. Apo auta to 70% einai CO2. O ari8mos autos einai basismenos se 15,000 milia ton xrono me 40% odhghma sto Highway kai 60% sthn polh.

An kanoume loipon ypologismous exoume:

6.1*0.7 = 4.27 tonous CO2 / xrono

Meta exoune:

4.27 x(1000 gramaria) x (1000 kyla ana tono) = 4.270.000 gr CO2

Ypologizoume ta gramaria ana xiliometro kai exoune:

(4270000)/(15000x1.6km/mile) = 177gr/Xiliometro

Me bash ton pinaka sthn sellida 11 ta telh kykloforias 8a einai peripou
!!!!!!800 Euro / Xrono!!!!!!!!!

Me bash tous idious ypologismous an ypo8esoume oti exoume mia BMW 325ci tou 2002 me 8.0 Tonous ana xrono.........

gia na mhn ta polylogav to teliko poso exnetai 233gr/Xiliometro sto opoio antisixei me !!!!!!!!!2000Euro!!!!!!!!!! / xrono.

Paidia me liga logia 8a mas piasoun TON KOLO.

Me meta edo sthm Amerikh peftoun me ta moutra sto autokinhta tvn 5.000cc kai emeis oi Europai 8a kanoume to skato paximadi gia na odhgame to karydosouflo mas. Xoria tis betzines

Kai gia na mhn lete oti leo malakies to meso autokinhto paragei 4 fores to baros tou se C02...to opoio einai 100% akribes me ta parapano noumera.

Apo thb Allh ta Diesel exoun poly pio xamhles forologies gia Telh. Blepe Sel 11

Ntroph!!!!!!!!

Kai epishs ntroph sto Ellhniko kratos to opoi exei to magalhtero pososta esodon apo ta autokinhta mesa sthn Europaikh envsh !!!!3.29%!!!! tou AEP me deuterh th Irlandia (sel 9).

Ego 8elo na do pos 8a kataferei o Simhths na 'yo8ethsh' to akros foroeispraxtiko metro ton telon.....Xoris na 8ysiasoun ta iyhla telh taxinomhshs

AUTA......

Ο χρήστης TGD έγραψε:
Λοιπόν, τέλη κυκλοφορίας με βάση τα καυσαέρια έχουν νόημα. Ειδικά από τη στιγμή που πρέπει να μειωθεί η εκπομπή τους λόγω του φαινομενου του θερμοκηπίου. Μην ξεχνάτε ότι η χώρα μας έχει υπογράψει το πρωτόκολλο του Κυότο και πρέπει να δώσει συμμορφωθεί με τη χρήση καθαρών κινητήρων, καθαρών καυσίμων, φίλτρων στις βιομηχανίες, κλπ.

Το πρόβλημα που προκύπτει και πάλι είναι το πόσο χρησιμοποιεί κανείς το αυτοκίνητο. Γιατί κάποιος που το χρησιμοποιεί λιγότερο να πληρώνει περισσότερο; Επίσης η επίσιμη εκπομπή δεν ισχύει αν το αυτόκίνητο έχει υποστεί μετατροπές.

Ο μόνος τρόπος για να γίνει αυτό δίκαια είναι όλα τα αυτοκίνητα να περνάνε από ΚΤΕΟ κάθε χρόνο, να μετριώνται τα CO2 τους και πόσα χιλιόμετρα έκαναν και να πληρώνουν τα αντίστοιχα τέλη. Αλλά εδώ δεν μπορούν να κάνουν ούτε τους τυπικούς ελέγχους, οπότε τι σκέφτομαι...

8a diafoniso me to gegonos oti h Metrhsh tou CO2 me bash ta pragmatika xiliometra tou autokinhtou den einai epiteuxhmh. Dioti:

1. O ka8enas 8a koitazei pos na 'kleyei' sta xiliometra girizontas piso to
   odometro (hlekrtronika h Mhxanika)

2. Tora me ta idiotika kteo o ka8enas 8a plhrvnei fakelaki oste na tou katebasoun tis ekpompes kausaerivn

3. Den mporei na paei o nous mou sto ti patentes 8a skarfistei o 'panourgos' Ellhnas

8a ginei xamos me ligia logia stis apataivnies.

Einai poly pio logiko na efarmosoun ergostasiakous ripous opos autoi metriountai vs stanard. Etsi 8a apofeux8oune opoies diafores

Sugkekrimena oi autokinhtobimhxanies xrisimopououne to exhs 'Standard Metrhshs' CO2

*15,000 milia ton xrono me 40% odhghsh ston anoixto dromo kai 60% sthn polh.

Einai ligo 'adiko' alla einai kai pio dikaiv se oti exei sxesh me tis katastaseis pou mporei na dimiourgh8oun.

Alla re paidia.....2,000 Euro telh kykloforias gia 2.500cc kai 800 gia 1.500cc einai ligo polla....toulaxisto gia ton 'meso' Ellhna pou exei tis 'mises' apodoxes tou 'mesaiou' Europaiou.

Na doume....ti 8a doume