λοιπόν έχουμε και λέμε:

ο Φισικέλα είναι πιο ελαφρύς από τον Αλόνσο και γι'αυτό το λόγο βρέθηκε τόσο ψηλά.

ο ΜΣ έχει τα σκληρά ελαστικά και άποψή μου είναι ότι δούλεψαν τη Ρενώ στο Q2. Στο Q2, ο ΜΣ έκανε 1.14.6 και αυτό το είδε ο Μπριατόρε. Αποφάσισε πιστεύω να ελαφρύνει τα μονοθέσιά του για να κάνουν το 1-2. ο Ρος το πρόβλεψε αυτό και έβαλε παραπάνω καύσιμα στον ΜΣ ώστε να καταταχθεί 3ος. Όταν ο Αλονσο, Φισικέλα, Μάσσα έμπαιναν στα πιτς για τη τελευταία προσπάθεια, ο ΜΣ έκανε ένα παραπάνω γύρο! Δε το είχε ξανακάνει αυτό (ειδικά σε σύγκριση με το Μασσα), οπότε σίγουρα κάτι παίζει.

Τελικά, έχοντας σκληρά ελαστικά και ίσως λίγο περισσότερα καύσιμα, γνωρίζοντας το LC της Ρενώ, πιστεύω πως η 3η θέση και η 4η του Μάσσα είναι μια χαρά για τον αυριανό αγώνα.

ο ΜΣ δήλωσε πως περίμενε λίγο πολύ πως δε θα πάρει τη Pole...

Ο χρήστης Theofaman έγραψε:
9 δέκατα κόστισε στον Schumi ο Τρούλι στην 1η προσπάθεια για την Pole

πήρε τη ρεβάνς από την Ιμολα....

Το ενδεχόμενο η Renault να είναι απλά πιο γρήγορη από την Ferrari δεν υπάρχει;

Ο χρήστης charmak66 έγραψε:
Το ενδεχόμενο η Renault να είναι απλά πιο γρήγορη από την Ferrari δεν υπάρχει;

εεεεεεε ελπίζω όχι

Ο χρήστης charmak66 έγραψε:
Το ενδεχόμενο η Renault να είναι απλά πιο γρήγορη από την Ferrari δεν υπάρχει;

ΟΧΙ

Speed Trap

Felipe Massa 319.7
Michael Schumacher 314.1
Giancarlo Fisichella 311.2

FERRARI COMMENTS QUALIFY

Michael Schumacher
�I am quite happy with third place on the grid, as we knew we might have to lose a bit in qualifying, because we based our decision about tyres more on how they would perform in the race. So, the second row is not a big problem as we know we can expect a strong race pace. Unlike at the Nurburgring, this time, I start from the clean side of the grid. As for race strategy, there are two possibilities and now we will have to make sure we pick the best one.�

Felipe Massa
�It was a good qualifying. A start from the front two rows is vital and we managed to reach this target. On my final run in Q3, I came up against a bit of traffic in the final sector, but I�m happy with the way things went. I am very confident about the race in that we know we can count on getting very consistent performance from the Bridgestone tyres.
�

Ross Brawn
�It was a very exciting session which kept our drivers and engineers busy right to the end. I think both Michael and Felipe did an excellent job. Obviously, you always hope to be as far forward as possible on the grid, but the cars are very good and it looks as though the Bridgestone tyres should give a strong performance over a long distance. There is good reason to be optimistic about tomorrow�s race.�

Jean Todt
�Once again, we witnessed a very close qualifying session today. Tomorrow, we will have an all-red second row, with the two cars of our main rival ahead of us. Both our drivers did well. Tomorrow, reliability and tyre performance and Bridgestone has made a great job of that for this race. Given that overtaking is very difficult, it�s clear that strategy will play a key role in deciding the outcome and tomorrow we will find out who got it right.�

Ο χρήστης mschumacher έγραψε:

9 äÝêáôá êüóôéóå óôïí Schumi ï Ôñïýëé óôçí 1ç ðñïóðÜèåéá ãéá ôçí Pole

ðÞñå ôç ñåâÜíò áðü ôçí Éìïëá....

Ôï ðå êáé ôü êáíå ôï èçñßï. Áí êáé ðéóôåýù ïôé èá ðáñáäþóïõí ôï ðíåýìá ïé äýï Toyota. 73 ï Ñáëö êáé 77 ï Ôñïýëé ãéá ÐáñáóêåõÞ êáé ÓÜââáôï, íïìßæù ðùò åßíáé âáñý öïñôßï ãéá íá áíôÝîïõí ïé êéíçôÞñåò ôïí áãþíá.

Αυτό που είπε ο Τ.Π. ότι περυσι η pole ήταν στο 1:14.8 έιναι όντως έτσι...

http://www.formula1.com/archive/grandpr ... 36/21.html

Και σήμερα έγραψε 1:14.648!!!!!!
Απίστευτο!!!!

O Αλονσο επρεπε να παρει την πολ παση θυσια για τους Ισπανους. Δεν γινοταν διαφορετικα.

Απο την Φερραρι το ηξεραν αυτο και ετσι ο Σουμαχερ δεν κυνηγησε την πολ βαζοντας περισσοτερα καυσιμα απο την Ρενω. (μαξιμουμ 4-5 γυρους παραπανω)

Αυτο που δεν υπολογισαν στη Φερραρι ειναι την επιδοση του Φιζι.

Λογικα με την καλυτερη εκκινηση τους τα ρενω αυριο θα μεινουν μπροστα και ο Φιζι θα κρατησει το Σουμαχερ δινοντας ανασες στον Αλονσο.

Τωρα αν αυτο θα ειναι αρκετο για τον Ισπανο εξαρταται και απο αλλα πραγματα.

Π.Χ τα ελαστικα. Τα Μπριτζστοουν εδειξαν οτι παλι υπερτερουν ετσω και λιγο των Μισελεν (κοιταχτε που βρεθηκαν τα Τογιοτα)

Ενα αλλο χαρακτηριστηκο που θα παιξει ρολο στην αυριανη εκκινηση και που εχει διαφορα απο αλλους αγωνες ειναι η πολυ μεγαλη ευθεια μεχρι την πρωτη στροφη απο την εκκινηση.
Εστω και λιγο καποιος να ξεκινησει καλυτερα απο τον μπροστινο του (ή μπροστινους του) αρκει για αν τους περασει.

Ο Ραικκονεν ειναι μεν βαρυφορτωμενος (5 τουλαχιστο γυροι παραπανω απο τον Σουμαχερ-- ισως ενα πιτ λιγοτερο? - δυσκολο αλλα οχι ακατορθωτο για την Μακλαρεν που δεν τρωει λαστιχα) αλλα γενικως η Μακλαρεν εδειξε οτι δεν ειναι σε θεση να απειλησει κατι που φαινεται και απο την επιδοση του Μοντογια.
Αν ο Φινλανδος δεν μπλεξει με αργοτερους συνδυασμους (πραγμα χλωμο απο εκει που ξεκιναει) ο ρυθμος περιστροφης αγωνα εχει δειξει οτι η Μακλαρεν θα ανεβει θεσεις και τον βλεπω καπου μεταξυ τριτης (αν καταφερει και περασει αρκετους στην εκκινηση) τεταρτης και πεμπτης θεσης.

Ενα αλλο που θελω να θιξω ειναι η υπερβολικη διαφορα ταχτυτητας στο speed trap (αλλα και στα αλλα τρια σημεια οπου μετριεται η ταχυτητα των μονοθεσιων) μεταξυ Φερραρι και ολων των υπολοιπων στα δοκιμαστηκα (αλλα και γενικοτερα ολο το διημερο).
Παραθετω μερικα
Σουμαχερ 319
Μασα 314
Φιζικελα 311
...
Αλονσο 304
Ραικκονεν 303
Μοντογια 302

Αποκλιεται ολη η διαφορα να οφειλεται στον κινητηρα.
Αρα τι γινετε?
Ειχαν διαφορετικες κλισεις στις πτερυγες?
Δεν το νομιζω διοτι προκειται για μια πιστα με μεγαλες και γρηγορες καμπες που αν αποφασισεις να τρεξεις με λιγοτερη κλιση αυτο εχει μεγαλο αντικτυπο στον χρονο σου. (Εξαλου τα Φερραρι δεν υστερουν σε δυναμη κινητηρα τουλαχιστο σε σχεση με την Ρενω για να κανουν κατι τετοιο, ασε που οι Μακλαρεν το δοκιμασαν το χειμωνα λογω αδυναμιας της Μετσεντες και ηταν 2-3 sec πιο αργοι απο τους αλλους)

Μηπως οι φωνες της Χοντα (Θα πειτε ποιοι αυτοι που περυσι κλεβανε με το ballast?) κυριως δεν ειναι τυχαιες για flexible wings?
Επισης κατι ακουστηκε οτι αφου η ΦΙΑ δεν κανει τιποτα για αυτο τοτε αυτοι και καποιες αλλες ομαδες θα κανουν το ιδιο.

Τι να πω θα δειξει αν και εγω πιστευω οτι η Φερραρι δεν εχει κανει κατι τετοιο απο τη αλλη η διαφορες στις ταχυτητες ειναι χαωδεις πραγμα που δεν εχει συμβει ποτε αναμεσα σε μονοθεσια που βρισκονται τοσο κοντα σε χρονους (Ρενω-Φερραρι)

P.S: ο Τρουλι θελει 'ξυλο'. Μπλοκαρε και τον Σουμαχερ και τον Ραικκονεν καθως ηταν σε γρηγορους γυρους ενω αυτος εκαιγε ακομα καυσιμα.
Απαραδεκτη επαναλαμβανομενη συμπεριφορα

Ο χρήστης ladaman11 έγραψε:

Μηπως οι φωνες της Χοντα (Θα πειτε ποιοι αυτοι που περυσι κλεβανε με το ballast?) κυριως δεν ειναι τυχαιες για flexible wings?
Επισης κατι ακουστηκε οτι αφου η ΦΙΑ δεν κανει τιποτα για αυτο τοτε αυτοι και καποιες αλλες ομαδες θα κανουν το ιδιο.

οι άλλες ομάδες είπαν θα φέρουν flexible wings οπότε κανένας δε κλέβει

Ο χρήστης mschumacher έγραψε:

Μηπως οι φωνες της Χοντα (Θα πειτε ποιοι αυτοι που περυσι κλεβανε με το ballast?) κυριως δεν ειναι τυχαιες για flexible wings?
Επισης κατι ακουστηκε οτι αφου η ΦΙΑ δεν κανει τιποτα για αυτο τοτε αυτοι και καποιες αλλες ομαδες θα κανουν το ιδιο.

οι άλλες ομάδες είπαν θα φέρουν flexible wings οπότε κανένας δε κλέβει

Αυτο ειπα και 'γω...

a Ναι σορρυ

Ο χρήστης ladaman11 έγραψε:
Ð.× ôá åëáóôéêá. Ôá Ìðñéôæóôïïõí åäåéîáí ïôé ðáëé õðåñôåñïõí åôóù êáé ëéãï ôùí Ìéóåëåí (êïéôá÷ôå ðïõ âñåèçêáí ôá Ôïãéïôá)

ÄÝí íïìßæù ðùò åßíáé Ýôóé. Ôçí Toyota ôçí âïëåýåé áõôÞ ç ðßóôá. Áðüäåéîç ïôé ï ÷ñüíïò ðïõ êáôÝñéøå ï Áëüíóï, çôáí ôïõ Ôñïýëé áð ôçí ðñïõãïýìåíç óåæüí.

Post-qualifying press conference - Spain

Saturday, May 13th 2006, 15:33 GMT

TV Unilaterals

Q. First pole on home soil, Fernando, what an atmosphere for you for your first pole on home soil.

Fernando Alonso: Yeah, first pole position in Spain and for sure, a great atmosphere for all the team and for me especially. I think we all enjoy this qualifying with the people in the grandstand supporting Formula One as a sport, because at the end of the day they are enjoying so much what is a new sport for us in this country and I enjoyed the lap also.

Q. It didn't look particularly easy for you during this qualifying session; in Q2 you were P4.

FA: Yeah, the times were really close at this circuit. We test here a lot during the winter and also down in 1m 14s, the times are really close. Yeah, it was tough. The main worry was to get through Q2 and then Q3 was the easiest part, but in fact it was the same thing as Nurburgring: Q2 so-so and then Q3 again in pole position for the second consecutive time, so a fantastic feeling.

Q. Obviously Michael was a threat to you, but it was great to have your teammate alongside you.

FA: Yeah, I think Ferrari and Michael are obviously strong again this weekend but you know we have to concentrate in our job to take the maximum from our car. In five races, the worst place was a second place in the race, and if we keep up this consistency we will be good for the championship and I think that's what we have to do: concentrate on our car, and on our job. OK, when Ferrari's too strong for us we have to be happy with second place, but I think that we have to believe that victory is possible tomorrow.

Q. Giancarlo, great team performance from Renault, but you've been very quick all weekend.

Giancarlo Fisichella: Yes, it's true. It's nice to be here. The Renault performance was very good today. We expected to be really competitive, obviously first and second on the grid tomorrow is a great result. We are really optimistic that we have a good package. I'm a little bit sad for the last couple of races, because with a better qualifying session there was a possibility to get on the podium and it was better to score a few more points for the championship but anyway, we are just at the beginning of the season so I am just looking forward and I hope to do a great race.

Q. How do you see the Michelin/Bridgestone, Renault/Ferrari battle?

GF: It's tough. It's very tight. Ferrari and Bridgestone have made a big step forward together so that Ferrari has been very very competitive in the last couple of races and we expect that competitiveness during the rest of the season.

Q. Michael, I have to ask whether you're disappointed with that or satisfied with the result?

Michael Schumacher: It's all about the strategy, whether you can be disappointed or you should be rather happy. In general, I think we knew we might have a little sacrifice for qualifying but we have a very strong race pace and that's what we have to concentrate on and that's what we obviously knew when we started the weekend: no surprise.

Q. How did the third qualifying session work out for you? It looked like you had a slight problem maybe with a slower car on your first run.

MS: No, I didn't have any... yeah, it's true actually. I had Jarno in front of me. The lap wasn't a great lap, but luckily the last lap was free of traffic.

Q And you got the best from the car and we're now talking strategy as you say.

MS: Yeah, yeah, we maximised our performance in a way. Although my last set didn't feel as great honestly - I should have been quicker on it � but nevertheless, we're third, I am on the clean side of the starting grid which should be a little better for me.

Q. Fernando, a big day for you tomorrow. Is it a different feeling for you in this Spanish Grand Prix in front of your home crowd?

FA: Yes, a little bit different. But there's no pressure, it's more motivation. After testing here all through the winter with empty grandstands, when you come here to the Grand Prix it's a completely new feeling, new emotion in the car, and I enjoy it so much - every lap � and for sure tomorrow the 66 laps won't be enough to enjoy all the race.

Press Conference

Q. Fernando, the first stage is completed, what about the next one?

FA: Next one, we will see tomorrow. The important thing today was getting the maximum from the car, get a good qualifying, again with no traffic, no problems and get through the last part of qualifying with no problems and we did our job. We did a good set-up in the car this morning preparing for qualifying and everything works OK. Again, both laps with no traffic and no problems in the car, and again, pole position after Nurburgring, second consecutive time so nothing to say, really.

Q. Did you change the car much as the conditions have changed?

FA: Yes, to be honest. We found a different car this morning as we expected, a little bit too much oversteer in the car and then we made some changes for Q1 and everything started working OK, but in Q1 maybe there was the possibility that everything was wrong and qualifying was over, but we were lucky. We did the good job again with the engineers and all the team worked hard to be on the first row tomorrow.

Q. Were you expecting Ferrari to be your major competitors rather than Honda or McLaren?

FA: After yesterday's times and the analysis we did last night, I think Ferrari was the strongest competitor again. Honda were quick this morning, but not so much in qualifying and McLaren were a little bit down. But you never know in qualifying. Sometimes you are close to going out in Q2 and then you fight for pole in Q3. It's a little bit strange.

Q. And how are you going to feel in the next 23 hours?

FA: Looking forward to the race. As I said before in the press conference, for me it is a fantastic feeling driving here with this support from the grandstand. I see people enjoying the race so tomorrow's 66 laps will not be enough for me. There's only one opportunity a year, so I need to enjoy tomorrow.

Q. Giancarlo, a great Renault one-two. Did you also have to do a lot of changes?

GF: Yes, of course we made some adjustments in the set-up and especially little things to make the car okay. The performance in the Grand Prix tomorrow looks very promising. I am happy for today and I think tomorrow we can do a good race and a good result.

Q. Very very close behind Fernando's time. Is there a little frustration you weren't ahead of him?

GF: I think it's important to be there and I think looking at the performance today I'm really disappointed with the laps that happened in the last Grand Prix. There is a chance to do much better and score a lot more points. But certainly we've had the potential since the beginning of the season and it's another chance to score a lot of points.

Q. Michael, has it been a difficult weekend so far with the changing track conditions?

MS: Not so much really. It was fairly straightforward.

Q. You have a great record. Retired once in 15 Grands Prix here. Seven times winner, seven times on pole.

MS: It's in the past.

Q. How clear are tactics here?

MS: There seems to be two options. I'm not sure whether it is so clear.

Q. Obviously Felipe was ahead of you until your last run. How important was it to get ahead of him.

MS: Honestly, I knew what Fernando's time was and so that was my aim. The rest I worry about later. I didn't actually know the time he (Massa) had done.

Q. The margin between yourself and Renault was quarter of a second. Did you expect that?

MS: I've seen that our tyres were not superb for qualifying all weekend long so maybe a little bit down there. We believe more in the race. It may be it's a characteristic of the two tyre manufacturers. That's what we have and what we live with and we're very happy with that.

Questions From The Floor

Q. (Livio Oricchio � O Estado de Sao Paulo) Michael, you suggested that there will be different strategies within the team. Is this correct?

MS: I didn't say this.

Q. You suggested it.

MS: I said there are two possibilities for the strategy. I don't know what these guys have. They're not going to tell us. Ask them.

Q. (Fritz-Dieter Rencken � The Citizen) Michael, it's nothing to do with the session, but can you confirm reports that you'll be co-operating in some sort of Hollywood movie or cartoon?

MS: Yeah, it's true that I give my voice for a sort of cartoon movie, yeah.

Q. (Fritz-Dieter Rencken � The Citizen) What character?

MS: A Ferrari car, what else?

News from AMuS:
- Ferrari thinks that Fisi is even lighter than Alonso.

• Brawn hopes that MSchu can overtake Fisi right at the start: 'The dirtier side (Fisi) is really quite a disadvantage here'
• Brawn: It will be important who will be faster at the end of the stints.
• Ferrari also thinks that Alonso used one more set of tyres during 3rd free practice. But Flavio disagrees: 'Nonsense, both will be in at lap 16/17'
• Haug: 'Juan lost 4 tenths to Kimi, he has to ask himself where he left those.'
  He hopes they will be in better shape tomorrow - 'It can't be that our car turned into a shack over night.'
• Button hoped that an increase in front wing would lessen the understeer - but it actually increased it. 'That was a catastrophe' acording to Button.
• Williams has a lot of fuel onboard. Their car just doesnt use the tyres good enough over a single lap.

Ο χρήστης mschumacher έγραψε:
News from AMuS:

• Ferrari also thinks that Alonso used one more set of tyres during 3rd free practice. But Flavio disagrees: 'Nonsense, both will be in at lap 16/17'
• Haug: 'Juan lost 4 tenths to Kimi, he has to ask himself where he left those.'

Για τον Φλάβιο: Πόσες φορές πρέπει να την πατήσει για να μάθει να μην είναι τοσο σίγουρος πριν τους αγώνες?

Για τον Montoya: Τον 'άδειασαν' ή μου φαίνεται?

Ο χρήστης solar_energy έγραψε:

Π.Χ τα ελαστικα. Τα Μπριτζστοουν εδειξαν οτι παλι υπερτερουν ετσω και λιγο των Μισελεν (κοιταχτε που βρεθηκαν τα Τογιοτα)

Δέν νομίζω πως είναι έτσι. Την Toyota την βολεύει αυτή η πίστα. Απόδειξη οτι ο χρόνος που κατέριψε ο Αλόνσο, ηταν του Τρούλι απ την προυγούμενη σεζόν.

Μολις εμαθα οτι τα Τογιοτα εχουν Υπερ-μαλακα λαστιχα αρα μαλλον θα πεσουν πιο πισω στο αγωνα.

Ο Montoya μετά τα δοκιμαστικά.
http://rapidshare.de/files/20349488/juan_angry.mpg.html

Ο χρήστης ladaman11 έγραψε:

Ð.× ôá åëáóôéêá. Ôá Ìðñéôæóôïïõí åäåéîáí ïôé ðáëé õðåñôåñïõí åôóù êáé ëéãï ôùí Ìéóåëåí (êïéôá÷ôå ðïõ âñåèçêáí ôá Ôïãéïôá)

ÄÝí íïìßæù ðùò åßíáé Ýôóé. Ôçí Toyota ôçí âïëåýåé áõôÞ ç ðßóôá. Áðüäåéîç ïôé ï ÷ñüíïò ðïõ êáôÝñéøå ï Áëüíóï, çôáí ôïõ Ôñïýëé áð ôçí ðñïõãïýìåíç óåæüí.

Ìïëéò åìáèá ïôé ôá Ôïãéïôá å÷ïõí Õðåñ-ìáëáêá ëáóôé÷á áñá ìáëëïí èá ðåóïõí ðéï ðéóù óôï áãùíá.

Ìðá, óå üëïõò ôïõò áãþíåò öïñÜíå ôá ðéï ìáëáêÜ.
Áëëéþò èá êïíôñÜñáíå ìüíï ôï áõôïêßíçôï ôïõ áëçôÜñ÷ç.
ÌÜëéóôá å÷ù ôçí åíôýðùóç ïôé äÝí áëëÜîáíå êáèüëïõ ëÜóôé÷á óÞìåñá. Ãíùñßæåé êáíåßò;