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Dionisis Gazetas he was caought not using the official and homologated underweare at the end of ss No 6 and he was excluded.

Συγνώμη αλλά τώρα το πρόσεξα...
Για ποιό λόγο ακριβώς αποκλείστηκε; Βασικά έχω απορία για τον τρόπο που έγινε ο έλεγχος...

cmarin

Ρώτα τον nass για τον τρόπο

jorally

Thank You very,very much, Dimitris and cmarin !

Best regards
jorge

jorally

Dimitris, one more help, please !

After data You've gave me some more other questions regarding this edition of 1980 for drivers which probably retired in SS1

Names of the co-drivers of :

117-B. Tantchev
118-Antonis Apostolidis
120-Ali Sipahi

By any chance do You have a list of retirements ?

Thanks in advance
Best Regards from Portugal
jorge

dap

Hello Γιωργο.

Ο χρήστης jorally έγραψε:

Names of the co-drivers of :

117-B. Tan[t]*chev - C.TANCHEV
118-Antonis Apostolidis - M. KOLIAVAS
120-Ali Sipahi - S.KARAMANOGLOU

*On my records the name of the driver is without t

By any chance do You have a list of retirements ? ** No i haven't.

But you must have the Nos of 37 finishers.It is easy to find the retirements. But I think that you ask for the reason of retirement.**

Thanks in advance
Best Regards from Portugal
jorge

Good night

Dimitris

jorally

Thank You very much, Dimitris !

In a report I've read they say that Nº 41 (Billows) and 120 (Sipahi) haven't started. Could you confirm ?

Just to finnish, could you tell me any of the reasons of the retirements of :

Vuckovich, Gallo, Theocharides, Okhu, Liotard, D. Arvanitakis, Dulcy, Vichos, Schweizer, Valentis, Szalai (the other members of Team Dacia didn't started, was he the only one to start ?), Lekkas, Panourgias, 'Carlo', Bittner, Polito, Hadley, 'Eni', Toujan, Vandresse, 'Souchom', Meylan, Moussorelis, Landeau, Protopapas, Auverdin, Marme, Papakostas, Vlachos, Kounanis, Spanos, Briy, Koulendianos, Shibakagi, 'Melas', Staramopoulos, Koutsikos, Fujikawa, Sakalis, Stenger, A. Corres, A.Arvanitakis, Kabaniaris, Xenos, Toussaint, Gramnatikopoulos, Raynaud, Marinos, Probst, Berthot, Zisopoulos, Prassas, Tanchev, Apostolidis, Makrakis, Sipahi, Stivachtaris, Mikelis, Kruegel, Carret, Labropoulos, Hartwich, Generalis, Kilikizos, T.Fischer, Koklas, Ginet, Podias, Heimburger, Kritsikis, Athanasoulas, Likakis, Giagnissis, Meischner,Prassopoulos, Kaperonis, Hense, Poulogiannis, Giovas, Giaglis, Montalvan, 'Eas', Boven, Egglezos, Brandstattter, 'Skipion', Doudesis, Zahos, T. Egglezos, Kantiotis, Loukas, Kalavarakis, Dezakos, and Paradalopulos !

A long list !!! At least, those from Eastern official teams (Lada, Wartburg, Trabant, Dacia) ... well, all will be welcome !

Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge

dap

Hello Γιωργο

Ο χρήστης jorally έγραψε:

In a report I've read they say that Nº 41 (Billows) and 120 (Sipahi) haven't started. Could you confirm ?

Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge

Both of them are in the official starting list.I don't know if they went to starting ramp on Acropolis or not.

For the secont request
I dont know where I wiil get after 27 years any answer for your question.....
Any way,I wiil try to find something.

Good night.
Δημητρης

jorally

Thanks Dimitri, once more !

I know it's difficult, but good archives required many,many work ... as you well know because your archives are very good !!

best regards from Portugal
Jorge

dap

For those no news!!!!!>Ο χρήστης jorally έγραψε:

Vuckovich, Theocharides, Okhu, Liotard, D. Arvanitakis, Dulcy, Vichos, Schweizer, Szalai (the other members of Team Dacia didn't started, was he the only one to start ?), Bittner, Hadley,Toujan, Vandresse, 'Souchom', Meylan, Landeau, Auverdin, Marme, Papakostas, Briy, Shibakagi, 'Melas', Koutsikos, Fujikawa, Sakalis, Stenger, A.Arvanitakis, Toussaint, Gramnatikopoulos, Raynaud, Probst, Berthot, Prassas, Tanchev, Apostolidis, Sipahi, Mikelis, Kruegel, Carret, Hartwich, Kilikizos, T.Fischer, Koklas, Ginet, Heimburger, Kritsikis, Meischner, Kaperonis, Hense, Giaglis, Montalvan, Boven, Egglezos, Brandstattter, 'Skipion', Doudesis, Kantiotis, Kalavarakis, Dezakos, and Paradalopulos !

5...4...3...2..1..GO...

TIME DELAY:
TH. EGGLEZOS, ZACHOS, MAKRAKIS,MARINOS,PROTOPAPPAS

BROKEN AXLE: KOUNANIS,VALENTIS.

BRAKES: STIVAHTARIS,KAMPANIARIS.

SUSPENSION:
LOUKAS,GIAGNISSIS,GIOVAS,STARAMOPOULOS,'CARLO',LEKKAS.

ENGINE FAILURE:
'ENI',POLITO,ATHANASOULAS,PRASSOPOULOS,KOULENTIANOS,VLACHOS,KORRES.

DIFFERENTIAL:
GALLO,ZISOPOULOS,XENOS,LAMPROPOULOS,GENERALIS,PODIAS.

GEAR BOX:PANOURGIAS.

HALFSHAFT:'AIAS'

CAMCHAFT:LYKAKIS.

WATER ON BENZINE TANK:( ) SPANOS.

ELECTRICS: POULOGIANNIS.

AND LAST

DRIVER ILLNESS: MOUSOURELLIS.

Thanks to 4T magazine,No 118,July 1980.

Good night
Dimitris

jorally

You're the BEST, DAP !!!

Thank you very,very much !

Best regards from Portugal
jorge

jorally

First of all, a HAPPY NEW YEAR for all !

I would like to know if someone could help me with the reasons of retirements of the following drivers in Acropolis 1986

Vassilis Tsobanopoulos
Gakis Kalemtzakis
Paul-Marc Meylan (CH)
Sotiris Hatzitsopanis
Andreas Papatriantafilou
Manolis Halivelakis
Klaus Fritzinger (D)
Costas Lambropoulos
Philippe Hugla (F)
Horst Hense (D)
P. Senneur (F)
G. Jaeger (A)
Gaby Husar (A)
Christian Blanchi (MON)
Theodoros Roussos
Leopold Mayer (A)
Panagiotis Mantzios
Emmanouil Egglezos
Lorenzo Ricci (I)
Jean Claude Waelti (CH)
Sotiris Ziakas
Anastassios Goussetis
Panagiotis Leondaridis
Nikos Kammenos
Antonios Apostolidis
Wolfgang Kauwertz (D)
Ewald Klein (D)
Hans Jelsdorf (DK)
Nikolaos Kritsikis
Antonis Stivahtaris
'Miriam'
Spiros Dodis
Theodoros Giannakopoulos
Ioannis Bougioukas
Ludovic Balint (ROM)
Panagiotis Giagnissis
Stefan Vasile (ROM)
Fotis Giaglis
'Issavros'
Nicu Grigoras (ROM)
E??? Paliodimopoulos
Cristian Macaneata (ROM)
Costas Bakis
Alexis Verlhac (F)
Helmut Brede (D)
Sotiris Skaltsas
Ioannis Margaronis
Dionissis Arvanitakis
Roland Fink (DDR)
Mihalis Katsibaros
Manos Markakis

Thanks in advance
Best regards from Portugal
jorge

dap

Καποιοι εθελοντες να μοιραστουμε το ευχαριστω του Γιωργη;

dap

Hello Jorge HAPPY NEW YEAR>Ο χρήστης jorally έγραψε:

Acropolis 1986

Vassilis Tsobanopoulos DIFFERENTIAL on ss 10
Gakis Kalemtzakis........REAR SUSPENSION after ss 2 **
Paul-Marc Meylan (CH)
Sotiris Hatzitsopanis....... ON A SMALL RIVER on ss 16**
Andreas Papatriantafilou
Manolis Halivelakis.......HALFSHAFT on ss 14
Klaus Fritzinger (D)
Costas Lambropoulos...** ENGINE FAILURE on ss 2**
Philippe Hugla (F)
Horst Hense (D)
P. Senneur (F)
G. Jaeger (A)
Gaby Husar (A)
Christian Blanchi (MON)
Theodoros Roussos.......TIME DELAYon after ss 19
Leopold Mayer (A)
Panagiotis Mantzios
Emmanouil Egglezos
Lorenzo Ricci (I)
Jean Claude Waelti (CH)
Sotiris Ziakas.........ENGINE FAILURE before ss 4)
Anastassios Goussetis...** ACCIDENTon ss 13**
Panagiotis Leondaridis
Nikos Kammenos
Antonios Apostolidis
Wolfgang Kauwertz (D)
Ewald Klein (D)
Hans Jelsdorf (DK)
Nikolaos Kritsikis
Antonis Stivahtaris
'Miriam'
Spiros Dodis
Theodoros Giannakopoulos
Ioannis Bougioukas.........CAMCHAFT on ss 6
Ludovic Balint (ROM)
Panagiotis Giagnissis.....DIFFERENTIAL before CH 26
Stefan Vasile (ROM)
Fotis Giaglis............ENGINE FAILURE on ss14
'Issavros'........** because of no service after many damages on CH 26**
Nicu Grigoras (ROM)
E??? Paliodimopoulos
Cristian Macaneata (ROM)
Costas Bakis
Alexis Verlhac (F)
Helmut Brede (D)
Sotiris Skaltsas.............** TIME DELAY ON CH 37**
Ioannis Margaronis.......** GEAR BOX on ss 1**
Dionissis Arvanitakis
Roland Fink (DDR)
Mihalis Katsibaros......OIL SUMP on ss 3
Manos Markakis.......** on a small river at ss 12**

Nothing else.

jorally

Ο χρήστης DAP έγραψε:
Hello Jorge HAPPY NEW YEAR> Acropolis 1986

Vassilis Tsobanopoulos DIFFERENTIAL on ss 10
Gakis Kalemtzakis........REAR SUSPENSION after ss 2 **
Paul-Marc Meylan (CH)
Sotiris Hatzitsopanis....... ON A SMALL RIVER on ss 16**
Andreas Papatriantafilou
Manolis Halivelakis.......HALFSHAFT on ss 14
Klaus Fritzinger (D)
Costas Lambropoulos...** ENGINE FAILURE on ss 2**
Philippe Hugla (F)
Horst Hense (D)
P. Senneur (F)
G. Jaeger (A)
Gaby Husar (A)
Christian Blanchi (MON)
Theodoros Roussos.......TIME DELAYon after ss 19
Leopold Mayer (A)
Panagiotis Mantzios
Emmanouil Egglezos
Lorenzo Ricci (I)
Jean Claude Waelti (CH)
Sotiris Ziakas.........ENGINE FAILURE before ss 4)
Anastassios Goussetis...** ACCIDENTon ss 13**
Panagiotis Leondaridis
Nikos Kammenos
Antonios Apostolidis
Wolfgang Kauwertz (D)
Ewald Klein (D)
Hans Jelsdorf (DK)
Nikolaos Kritsikis
Antonis Stivahtaris
'Miriam'
Spiros Dodis
Theodoros Giannakopoulos
Ioannis Bougioukas.........CAMCHAFT on ss 6
Ludovic Balint (ROM)
Panagiotis Giagnissis.....DIFFERENTIAL before CH 26
Stefan Vasile (ROM)
Fotis Giaglis............ENGINE FAILURE on ss14
'Issavros'........** because of no service after many damages on CH 26**
Nicu Grigoras (ROM)
E??? Paliodimopoulos
Cristian Macaneata (ROM)
Costas Bakis
Alexis Verlhac (F)
Helmut Brede (D)
Sotiris Skaltsas.............** TIME DELAY ON CH 37**
Ioannis Margaronis.......** GEAR BOX on ss 1**
Dionissis Arvanitakis
Roland Fink (DDR)
Mihalis Katsibaros......OIL SUMP on ss 3
Manos Markakis.......** on a small river at ss 12**

Nothing else.

Thank You, Dimitris and a Happy New Year !
This is a work with no end, so I think I have some others to ask

regards
jorge

jorally

Hello !

I would like to know if , by any chance, someone has a entry list of the Acropolis Rally from the years 1969, 1970 and 1971 who could share ...

Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge

dap

My archives are empty...

Someone else to help ?????

jorally

Hello !

Would like to know if someone knows their reasons of retirement :

Costas Apostolou
'Melas'
Elias Athanassiou
Costas Lambropoulos
Dionissis Arvanitakis
Anastassios Gemenis
Euripedes Corres
Grigoris Nioras
Athanassios Takanikos
Georgios Raptopoulos
Nikos Makris
Vassilis Halkias
A. Theodorakopoulos (his first name and from his co-driver Kavga?)
Spiros Tsapalos (first name of his co-driver Petropoulos?)
J. Karagiannoudis (first name of his co-driver Dimos?)
Dionissis Gazetas
Mihalis Moschous
Christos Armeftis
E. Paleodimopoulos (his first name and from his co-driver Dollamis?)
Dimitris Psillos
Ioannis Koutsoupas (first name of his co-driver Vassilidis?)
Nikos Tsadaris
Dimitris Nassoulas (first name of his co-driver Kapelas?)
Stathis Mokkas
Ioannis Margaronis (first name of his co-driver Gelis?)
Angelos Zivas
Costas Sinetos
Georgios Siropoulos (first name of his co-driver Maginas?)
Georgios Kokkotis
Sotiris Skaltsas
Mihalis Katsibaros (first name of his co-driver Apostolidis?)
Costas Bintzos
Dimitris Giamas
A. Arapitsas (his first name and from his co-driver Kranias?)

Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge

dap

Hello Jorge.I found something for you.
All about names are from entry list.The other information are from a Greek magazine (I dont know the title)....

Ο χρήστης jorally έγραψε:

Costas Apostolou** gear box**
'Melas' gear box
Elias Athanassiou ** electrics**
Costas Lambropoulos ** semi -axel**
Dionissis Arvanitakis
Anastassios Gemenis ** mechanical problems**
Euripedes Corres
Grigoris Nioras
Athanassios Takanikos
Georgios Raptopoulos
Nikos Makris
Vassilis Halkias
A. Theodorakopoulos (his first name and from his co-driver Kavga?** as per entry list : A. KAVGA** )
Spiros Tsapalos (first name of his co-driver Petropoulos? ** D ?? )
J. Karagiannoudis (first name of his co-driver Dimos? CHristos ??)
Dionissis Gazetas ** suspension
Mihalis Moschous** out of road**
Christos Armeftis
E. Paleodimopoulos (his first name and from his co-driver Dollamis?** Ioannis??)
Dimitris Psillos
Ioannis Koutsoupas (first name of his co-driver Vassilidis? C.) broken suspension arm**
Nikos Tsadaris engine problems
Dimitris Nassoulas (first name of his co-driver Kapelas?** Gorge???[b])
Stathis Mokkas [b] same as Tsadaris,engine**
Ioannis Margaronis (first name of his co-driver Gelis?Nikolaos???)
Angelos Zivas
Costas Sinetos ** mechanical problem**
Georgios Siropoulos (first name of his co-driver Maginas?E.)
Georgios Kokkotis ** semi- axel**
Sotiris Skaltsas
Mihalis Katsibaros (first name of his co-driver Apostolidis?A.)
Costas Bintzos** electrics**
Dimitris Giamas
A. Arapitsas (his first name and from his co-driver Kranias?** CHristos???**)

Also someone in this forum found following http://www.juwra.com/index.html
Maybe will help you.
Good night
Dimitris

jorally

Once more, Dimitris, my deeply thanks !

Best regards
jorge

Some more on red from 4Troxoi magazine

Ο χρήστης DAP έγραψε:
Hello Jorge.I found something for you.
All about names are from entry list.The other information are from a Greek magazine (I dont know the title)....

Costas Apostolou** gear box**
'Melas' gear box
Elias Athanassiou ** electrics**
Costas Lambropoulos ** semi -axel**/ driveshaft
Dionissis Arvanitakis gearbox
Anastassios Gemenis ** mechanical problems**/ suspension
Euripedes Corres suspension
Grigoris Nioras
Athanassios Takanikos
Georgios Raptopoulos
Nikos Makris transmission
Vassilis Halkias
A. Theodorakopoulos (his first name and from his co-driver Kavga?** as per entry list : A. KAVGA** )
Spiros Tsapalos (first name of his co-driver Petropoulos? ** D ?? ) differential
J. Karagiannoudis (first name of his co-driver Dimos? CHristos ??)Most likely Charis...
Dionissis Gazetas ** suspension
Mihalis Moschous** out of road**
Christos Armeftis
E. Paleodimopoulos (his first name and from his co-driver Dollamis?** Ioannis??)
Dimitris Psillos
Ioannis Koutsoupas (first name of his co-driver Vassilidis? C.) broken suspension arm**
Nikos Tsadaris engine problems
Dimitris Nassoulas (first name of his co-driver Kapelas?** Gorge???[b])
Stathis Mokkas [b] same as Tsadaris,engine**
Ioannis Margaronis (first name of his co-driver Gelis?Nikolaos???)
Angelos Zivas
Costas Sinetos ** mechanical problem**
Georgios Siropoulos (first name of his co-driver Maginas?E.)
Georgios Kokkotis ** semi- axel**
Sotiris Skaltsas
Mihalis Katsibaros (first name of his co-driver Apostolidis?A.)
Costas Bintzos** electrics**
Dimitris Giamas
A. Arapitsas (his first name and from his co-driver Kranias?** CHristos???**)